Track forum general chit chat.

[chamba002]

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Got my two piece rotors from ECS These discs are OEM size but looks massive. Pairing these with DTC-70 pads. Im excited to see how this brake set up works at MSR Houston next week.

[roastbeef]

They look like really nice pieces. If I was going to stick with oem rear calipers, I'd definitely pickup a set.

[Jack14]

Thoughts on Bimmerworld vs CAE shifter for our cars?

[///Mobbin]

Originally Posted by chamba002

Got my two piece rotors from ECS These discs are OEM size but looks massive. Pairing these with DTC-70 pads. Im excited to see how this brake set up works at MSR Houston next week.

I'll be at MSR-H next weekend also, what color is your car, will be sure to say hello.

[4M]

Ordered these bad boys from MRF (subframe) and Turner (rear diff) respectively. Install date TBD, but probably in our too long "off" season.

[redpriest]

Yeah, so my alignment is way off due to my, "excursions". I haven't had the alignment checked in probably over 8 track days:

Front camber Before:
-3.12 L
-3.22 R

Front toe before:
-0.49 L
0.30 R

Camber rear:
-1.62 L
-1.72 R

Toe rear:
0.49 L
0.28 R

Now I'm at:

-3.2 camber both L and R front tires
0 toe on L and R front tires
-1.86 camber both L and R rears
0.12 toe both L and R rears

[Kong Sheng Han]

That's nothing. I used to have to get an alignment after every event at TWS. I think problem has been solved though.

[redpriest]

The videos of TWS I've seen make that track look like the original hippodrome chariot track, lmao

[admranger]

Originally Posted by Kong Sheng Han

Yeah, I should probably start now. If I win I'll give $50k to each track subforum M3post-er that I like.

Your balaclava makes you look more masculine and talented.

[admranger]

Originally Posted by redpriest

Yeah, so my alignment is way off due to my, "excursions". I haven't had the alignment checked in probably over 8 track days:

Front camber Before:
-3.12 L
-3.22 R

Front toe before:
-0.49 L
0.30 R

Camber rear:
-1.62 L
-1.72 R

Toe rear:
0.49 L
0.28 R

Now I'm at:

-3.2 camber both L and R front tires
0 toe on L and R front tires
-1.86 camber both L and R rears
0.12 toe both L and R rears

That's a lot of front camber. Malek seems to prefer about a degree less than you have up front. What's the basis for mo camber? Are you running RA-1s or something (they loved camber, Turner used to run -5 or more back in the day)?

FWIW I think I jacked up my alignment using so much curb at COTA (I used every inch there was on some corners). Then I rinsed/repeated and did it again at Laguna. I should have bought the unlimited alignments but I don't want to go back to the shop I used (scary equipment maintenance...).

[redpriest]

Originally Posted by admranger

That's a lot of front camber. Malek seems to prefer about a degree less than you have up front. What's the basis for mo camber? Are you running RA-1s or something (they loved camber, Turner used to run -5 or more back in the day)?

FWIW I think I jacked up my alignment using so much curb at COTA (I used every inch there was on some corners). Then I rinsed/repeated and did it again at Laguna. I should have bought the unlimited alignments but I don't want to go back to the shop I used (scary equipment maintenance...).

No basis really. I ran with -2.5 camber before this. I had my sway bar adjusted to be stiffer - dialing in understeer - Alain Prost style as you suggested, and I suspect whatever my camber settings got knocked into + sway bar adjustment left at about -3.2, so my alignment shop decided to leave it there. And I said, ah what the heck, I'll give it a shot.

I just replaced my fronts, which had plenty of center tread left, but was worn pretty heavily on the shoulder. Kumho Ecsta PS91 tires now instead of Michelin Pilot Super Sports, so at $330 for a set of 2 on my street tires, I'm not worried if my excessive camber kills them early . It'll be a good experiment to see how it goes.

Hopefully with a non-jacked up alignment, more understeer so the car doesn't slide out underneath me in every turn, I should be setting faster lap times.

Who knows, I could have done all this work for nothing, haha. We'll see.

[M3 Number 86]

Originally Posted by Kong Sheng Han

Eh, I like it. The rear is badass and a better sight IMO. Would still rather F1, but those are unattainable unless billionaire.

Yeah, I should probably start now. If I win I'll give $50k to each track subforum M3post-er that I like.

Don't forget the guy who called out your tan LOL

[M3 Number 86]

Didn't PB in hot ass weather and unlucky traffic in the first two cool sessions. Will post vid later but ended up just having fun sliding around and rallying.

My car got mad and said no dsc off so your ass can pb again at some point. Lol

[justpete]

Originally Posted by Jack14

Thoughts on Bimmerworld vs CAE shifter for our cars?

FWIW, the BimmerWorld shifter looks similar to the one from AKG Motorsports. Wouldn't want to use either or the CAE with stock engine and trans mounts though.

Currently running AKG 75D solid engine mounts and UUC red trans mounts with Enforcer Cups and the CAE works incredibly well. Its heavy spring centering helps to keep from getting lost in the gates on the track. And it keeps it from flopping around. Also has a reverse lockout which the other two do not, if that's of any importance. The CAE Ultra Shifter is really worth every cent, imho, for a dual duty car. The BimmerWorld or AKG shifter, otoh, are perfect for pure track/race cars.

[M3 Number 86]

Originally Posted by admranger

That's a lot of front camber. Malek seems to prefer about a degree less than you have up front. What's the basis for mo camber? Are you running RA-1s or something (they loved camber, Turner used to run -5 or more back in the day)?

FWIW I think I jacked up my alignment using so much curb at COTA (I used every inch there was on some corners). Then I rinsed/repeated and did it again at Laguna. I should have bought the unlimited alignments but I don't want to go back to the shop I used (scary equipment maintenance...).

I have never seen him at the track and the only track picture I've ever seen him post was a car that had spun out and he commented "opposite lock" and the fact that he charged two hours of labor to a buddy for rethreading a drain plug which took my shop two minutes makes me wonder why he is all of a sudden the expert on alignment camber or our cars in general. Because he's on the forum? LOL

99% of the guys on here run more than -3 degrees camber no?

[chamba002]

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Installed my ECS 2 pc rotors with Hawk DTC-70 pads. They squeal horribly on the street LOL. I also installed my bucket seat! I'm loving the lower seating position and the snug fit

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[Kong Sheng Han]

Off topic, but I saw 30-40 FGTs in Austin today, including the heritage edition (<3). There were also a couple of track-prepped ones with cage and large wing, one of which I saw being used properly at COTA earlier this year. I'm sure I'm not the only FGT fan here.

[roastbeef]

they are neat cars. i wonder how they feel compared to other mid-engined cars on the track.

[Jack14]

Originally Posted by justpete

FWIW, the BimmerWorld shifter looks similar to the one from AKG Motorsports. Wouldn't want to use either or the CAE with stock engine and trans mounts though.

Currently running AKG 75D solid engine mounts and UUC red trans mounts with Enforcer Cups and the CAE works incredibly well. Its heavy spring centering helps to keep from getting lost in the gates on the track. And it keeps it from flopping around. Also has a reverse lockout which the other two do not, if that's of any importance. The CAE Ultra Shifter is really worth every cent, imho, for a dual duty car. The BimmerWorld or AKG shifter, otoh, are perfect for pure track/race cars.

Appreciate the input. Burned up my clutch on the track today. I think it heat spotted a bit. Are you running stock clutch?

[justpete]

Originally Posted by Jack14

Appreciate the input. Burned up my clutch on the track today. I think it heat spotted a bit. Are you running stock clutch?

Clutchmasters 850 dual solid disc with solid flywheel.

[Jack14]

Originally Posted by justpete

Clutchmasters 850 dual solid disc with solid flywheel.

How do like it? Is it a pain to move around pits?

[justpete]

Originally Posted by Jack14

How do like it? Is it a pain to move around pits?

It's great, I daily it altho it is a pain to get off a light discreetly.