Blown motors, Rod Bearing failure S65 Registry.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by FazerBoy

And another one in the UK:

http://forums.m3cutters.co.uk/showthread.php?t=157369

Roger that...Thanks for sharing !

[admranger]

Originally Posted by pbonsalb

Where is that guy who says rod bearings dont fail in the UK?

This isn't the failure he's looking for...

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Doc Oc

Wanted to post this now that there is resolution. I am the guy Phillipe was referencing as an example of another set of aftermarket bearings failing. Last month I noticed a rattle under wot throttle at 4500 rpms or so. Was able to reproduce it twice. Also noticed my engine temps at highway speeds were way above normal (take note people, I think this is a big indicator). As soon as I slowed down to 35-40, temps returned to normal. Got home and pulled the oil and found small bits of metal. Sent off the oil to blackstone, no lead detected. Thought maybe I was being paranoid so I took it for another short drive. Ran ok but was ticking loudly in the garage when I got back. Pulled the oil again, inconclusive. Lots of tiny bubbles that looked like metal but were not. Thought again that I might be paranoid (and kept reminding myself that the uoa was good) so I let it sit for a week. Pulled the oil again, all looked ok. Started it, bearing spins. Obvious rod knock immediately. Shut it down and am now typing this. Don't know wtf to do. Thinking of pulling the bearings myself to inspect before getting a new engine (that I absolutely can't afford) but am not very confident in my abilities to drop the subframe without a diy or manual to reference. And if I get that far, I have no idea if the crank has already been chewed up. Life sucks Bearings have been in the car for 13k miles. They are the newest VAC's with arp's. I'm not indicting them yet as it very well could be the install, but right now I'm obviously very unhappy. This was my all time favorite car.... I'll probably be pm'ing some of you guys hoping to pick your brains on getting the subframe down. Hope you don't mind. For those of you running the same bearings, keep a close eye on things.

Terrible news Take the night off and

[Doc Oc]

Lol, exactly what I did! Paying for it this a.m though

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by Doc Oc

Lol, exactly what I did! Paying for it this a.m though

Cheers my friend !

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by swamp2

It's great that you offer such a comfortable, consoling shoulder for people to cry on. Do you want a prize for that? How about doing a real service for the community instead.

Look, I understand about ones word. It is not advisable to break ones word. But then I also suggest to not come here and brag about all of the "insider" information you have that you either can't share and/or can't share where it came from. Such information is best left completely concealed, not partly revealed. It's almost like teasing people here.

Think the time has come to show you something => #1576 http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...786615&page=72
And I was talking BS...
BTW my first name is Philippe .

[Doc Oc]

I've been spelling your name wrong since the beginning...sorry man. Also wanted to say thanks to you and some of the other guys (Victor H and Phonsalb) that I've been pm'ing with. This forum is awesome and the support really helps! I'm not a very wealthy guy, plus I've got a daughter in college and a mom I help support so getting the help to do this work myself is a life saver and I appreciate all of you guys tremendously.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by Doc Oc

I've been spelling your name wrong since the beginning...sorry man. Also wanted to say thanks to you and some of the other guys (Victor H and Phonsalb) that I've been pm'ing with. This forum is awesome and the support really helps! I'm not a very wealthy guy, plus I've got a daughter in college and a mom I help support so getting the help to do this work myself is a life saver and I appreciate all of you guys tremendously.

Doesn't matter brother ,you don't need to feel sorry... it's ok for me
I feel sorry about "your" situation , and you can count on my support at anytime and it was/is all my pleasure !
Indeed our cars and S65 are not cheap !
When are you planning to pull your oil pan ?

[Doc Oc]

Asap. Ordering the engine support and gaskets tomorrow. Several people with vac bearings are anxious to see what happened so i'm going to try to have it done by next weekend.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by Doc Oc

Asap. Ordering the engine support and gaskets tomorrow. Several people with vac bearings are anxious to see what happened so i'm going to try to have it done by next weekend.

I see , please keep us posted .
Thanks for the update

[chief]

My 2008 e92 M3 with approximately 66,000 miles had a catastrophic failure when cylinder 6 fuel injector failed filling the cylinder with fuel, causing the motor to hydrolock. The #6 piston impacted the top of motor creating a window (picture attached) and blew out the bottom of the motor (picture attached).

s65 cylinder 6 in the valley


s65 cylinder 6 out the bottom of the motor

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by chief

My 2008 e92 M3 with approximately 66,000 miles had a catastrophic failure when cylinder 6 fuel injector failed filling the cylinder with fuel, causing the motor to hydrolock. The #6 piston impacted the top of motor creating a window (picture attached) and blew out the bottom of the motor (picture attached).

s65 cylinder 6 in the valley


s65 cylinder 6 out the bottom of the motor

Wow that's a serious black hole that you show there !
And I would not love to hear the noise when it happend ! Good to hear in the other thread the failure was partly covered ..
Thanks for sharing

[aus]

Originally Posted by FazerBoy

And another one in the UK:

Sorry bud.

http://forums.m3cutters.co.uk/showthread.php?t=157369

Originally Posted by pbonsalb

Where is that guy who says rod bearings dont fail in the UK?

Wasn' that senior funky pants?

Originally Posted by Green-Eggs

You want to hear something even funnier? The shop he said was his definitive source of information in the UK buys the BE Bearings multiple sets at a time and directly contradicts that guy's claims about bearing failures.

That's HILARIOUS!! .

[Sneaky Pete]

So how many sets is it of BE bearings that have failed so far...or is it still a secret?

"Originally Posted by Green-Eggs
You want to hear something even funnier? The shop he said was his definitive source of information in the UK buys the BE Bearings multiple sets at a time and directly contradicts that guy's claims about bearing failures."

And which shop is that?
Not that anyone is accusing you of making stuff up again.

[FazerBoy]

Originally Posted by Sneaky Pete

And which shop is that?
Not that anyone is accusing you of making stuff up again.

There is indeed a performance shop in the UK who has performed several rod bearing changes and who has bought several sets of BE Bearings. I know this to be a fact...

[Sneaky Pete]

Originally Posted by FazerBoy

There is indeed a performance shop in the UK who has performed several rod bearing changes and who has bought several sets of BE Bearings. I know this to be a fact...

"The shop he said was his definitive source of information in the UK buys the BE Bearings multiple sets at a time and directly contradicts that guy's claims about bearing failures."

This is the shop i want to hear about.

[pbonsalb]

Originally Posted by FazerBoy

There is indeed a performance shop in the UK who has performed several rod bearing changes and who has bought several sets of BE Bearings. I know this to be a fact...

This is the shop I want to hear about.

Amazing coincidence sneaky pete comes back to life after a comment about SFP.

[Doc Oc]

Well he does have the word sneaky right in his name....

[Sneaky Pete]

Originally Posted by pbonsalb

This is the shop I want to hear about.

Amazing coincidence sneaky pete comes back to life after a comment about SFP.

I know its not always easy to follow every thread but if you had you would have noticed my comments about the lack of RB related engine failures in the UK a couple of months ago.
At that time there hadn't been one on any of the main M3 forums.
No doubt some misguided shops are buying and supplying BE bearings sets including Reeve (who I mentioned) but who hadn't reported any failures of UK road cars at that time but who were trying to scare up some business on Cutters.
The engine failure recently noted on Cutters is awaiting a strip down to see the cause which may well turn out to be a bearing failure of some kind.

[Gesler]

The shop has ordered "n" number of bearing sets, therefore it's a fact "n" number of engines have had bearing failure. Being in the medical field, this is very similar to how pharma reps sell their drugs, device company reps push their devices, cardiologists sell stents and pacemakers, orthopedic guys sell joint surgeries etc etc

[OM VT3]

Originally Posted by Sneaky Pete

You know we had this discussion on cutters recently and no one (including Reeve) has heard of an RB failed engine.

Originally Posted by Sneaky Pete

No doubt some misguided shops are buying and supplying BE bearings sets including Reeve (who I mentioned) but who hadn't reported any failures of UK road cars at that time but who were trying to scare up some business on Cutters.

Only three months ago he's your authoritative and trusted source of information. Even earlier today, you said the Green-Eggs vendor made up the story about your authoritative and trusted UK vendor buying BE Bearings. That was until others started confirming it. An hour later, he's no longer your authoritative and trusted source, but another money grubbing scumbag who can't be trusted any longer. This is the type of stuff that is so funny you can't even make it up if you wanted to.

Originally Posted by Sneaky Pete

The engine failure recently noted on Cutters is awaiting a strip down to see the cause which may well turn out to be a bearing failure of some kind.

One thing I'm sure we all agree on is that we can all "trust" you to bring us unbiased and accurate report on the engine tear down. LMFAO.

[Sneaky Pete]

Originally Posted by Gesler

The shop has ordered "n" number of bearing sets, therefore it's a fact "n" number of engines have had bearing failure.

Well no its not a fact...as most engines that have failed from a rod bearing failure are not recoverable by a simple bearing replacement. The shop in question does preventative rod bearing changes when requested.