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11-09-2007, 10:14 AM | #45 |
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But how do you know at which point they would lose profit. My guess: BMW could sell the M3 at ~40k and still make money on it. I believe BMW has one of the highest profit margins in the industry, with Porsche being (somewhat notoriously) the highest.
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11-09-2007, 10:20 AM | #46 | |
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WTF? Do you mean, sell a very large house as a real-estate agent and buy a car with the commision? Or are you literally saying that you'd sell a house of your own just to buy a car? Also, why buy a 6 year old car, for $120k - double the price of a new M3? I mean if you can genuinely spend $120k on a car, I would be seriously looking at a brand new 997 GT3 which will likely murder the F360. Why even consider the M3 at all if your budget allows such cars? I mean at the very least, even if you go conservative, you could still be in a 997S. |
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11-09-2007, 10:23 AM | #47 | |
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11-09-2007, 10:49 AM | #48 | |
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Also, the poeple that have posted an upwards limit aren't trying to be cheap or smug or spoiled about getting lower prices. The limit they posted is just that, their limit to how much money they could stretch to spend on the car. Plus on a side note everything has personal (sentimental) worth to poeple, it's only natural that said worth would be different depending on the currency or country you hail from. |
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11-09-2007, 10:54 AM | #49 | |
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11-09-2007, 11:21 AM | #51 |
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The current devaluated dollar does make purchase prices in other currencies seem like a bargain, but we are not trading currencies here.
I would not spend a penny over 65K for an M3 equipped with the options I want, base price with BMW is meaningless. I don't need a four seater and a loaded, nicely moded 997S is very easy to find at that price, used of course. Plus the car has already gone thru its greatest depreciation, so operating cost will be much lower than the new M3. |
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11-09-2007, 12:28 PM | #53 | |
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BMW definitely have to thread lightly with the M3 prices or the same fiasco will happen again... |
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11-09-2007, 12:37 PM | #54 | |
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Do keep in mind the the two cars are incredibly close in performance. Some contests the M3 will win and others the Ferrari will win, but from all the numbers I have seen they are really close. Definitely a drivers race. To me this is still an amazing concept. 4 useable seats, useable trunk, comfortable daily driver, half the price of a used 360 and every bit as fast. Good times, boys! |
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11-09-2007, 01:00 PM | #55 | |
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Regarding the price difference between the 328i and the 335i, there - literally - you are paying for the engine, plus more standard options. So that's a good example of what BMW charges when they change the engine. For the M3, they do a whole lot more. If all the M3 was was an engine upgrade, your $52k price would be much too high. In fact I would go as far as to say that $52k for a 335i with a V8 would be quite sadistic. |
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11-09-2007, 02:09 PM | #56 |
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About US$190k for a well optioned M3, which is about the same price as a loaded 730Li locally. Anything higher I'll rather pay a little more for a low mileage 997 C2S.
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11-09-2007, 02:21 PM | #57 | |
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Between a 360 Modena and a new GT3, it's a no brainer unless you are after the posing value of a ferrari. A 997 GT3 will run circles round the 360, not to mentioned much tougher built for sustained track abuse. |
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11-09-2007, 02:41 PM | #58 |
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I can only imagine the debate they had determining the US price; the most important decision over engineering and design. Do you think the delay is to watch sales in other markets to determine the price point?
All of the testing and improvements are simply to increase profit, not to make us happy drivers. If they price it too high the volume sold will go down, reducing profit. Too low and there will be one on every corner.........wait, how many did I see on the way to work today................Ya, um, too low and ..................ok people, I work in the healthcare arena not in the business world. Can someone with an MBA lend a hand here? |
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11-09-2007, 03:00 PM | #60 |
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E93 M3 $65K Base -- $75K with (few) options
Since I don't like car payments I usually pay cash for my cars up front. I'm prepared to pay as much as $75K out the door for an E93 M3 Convertible. It's difficult to imagine what I'd buy instead (if the price is beyond $75K). I don't think there's another convertible on the market that comes close to what the E93 M3 will offer.
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11-09-2007, 03:03 PM | #61 |
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E93 M3 $65K Base -- $75K with (few) options
Since I don't like car payments I usually pay cash for my cars up front. I'm prepared to pay as much as $75K out the door for an E93 M3 Convertible. It's difficult to imagine what I'd buy instead (if the price is beyond $75K). I don't think there's another convertible on the market that comes close to what the E93 M3 will offer.
Think my assumption (regarding base for convertible) is close to accurate? I can't imagine a 3-series costing any more than that. |
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11-09-2007, 03:04 PM | #62 |
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