Thinking about getting an APR GT Wing

tom @ eas · 03-05-2014, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TheKosherStogie

^the wing is removable. I have it. I leave it on and drive around like an asshole but another gentleman in SoCal removes it for dd and puts it on for track. You leave the base in and unbolt the wing stand

+1. It's easy to remove the wing and simply leave the plates intact.

tightie · 03-05-2014, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TheKosherStogie

Hope this helps It's set flat

Do we have 61 or 67"? I don't even know.

tom @ eas · 03-05-2014, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by tightie

Do we have 61 or 67"? I don't even know.

67".

TheKosherStogie · 03-05-2014, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by tightie

Do we have 61 or 67"? I don't even know.

I thought I had the 61 but it looks like yours. I'll have to measure. That's prob tough to eye. Maybe Casey/RWE do you remember?

Casey@RWE · 03-05-2014, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by TheKosherStogie

I thought I had the 61 but it looks like yours. I'll have to measure. That's prob tough to eye. Maybe Casey/RWE do you remember?

61" for you

TheKosherStogie · 03-05-2014, 09:15 PM

^thanks. Appreciate all the help

Billj747 · 03-05-2014, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by AlpineWeiss92

Thanks for the pic Bill. Now I only wish I could read the text with it.

M3 GTS:

The BMW M3 GTS is equipped with variable front aprons - equipped and heckflugelelementen (adjustable rear wing?). They allow you to make a corresponding adjustment to the route profile of the aerodynamic properties. The activities carried out in the static wind tunnel at Mercedes measurements were made in the factory setting that has not changed even for the practice trials. In this configuration, the BMW M3 GTS features an open drag coefficient of 0.32. The aerodynamic elements thereby generate an output of 64 newtons at the front axle and 290 (30?) Nm at the rear axle.

M3 (same as below):

E92inSG · 03-06-2014, 06:21 AM

Ok kinda leaning towards the 61" GTC-300 at the moment.

http://www.rush-works.com/wp-content.../apr_new_3.jpg

tightie · 03-06-2014, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TheKosherStogie

I thought I had the 61 but it looks like yours. I'll have to measure. That's prob tough to eye. Maybe Casey/RWE do you remember?

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Originally Posted by tom @ eas

67".

I checked with KC from APR also.

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You have the 67” wing span on your E92 M3. We can make any custom size from 71” and under.
Here are the pricing and applications:
http://aprperformance.com/index.php?...=324&Itemid=44

TheKosherStogie · 03-06-2014, 02:21 PM

I also may be selling my APR Wing w/Trunk and Splitter w/Lip combo together if interested. message me

E92inSG · 03-06-2014, 07:32 PM

Unfortunately I'm halfway across the world. Shipping will kill

TheKosherStogie · 03-06-2014, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by E92inSG

Unfortunately I'm halfway across the world. Shipping will kill

Yeah that too bad ;(
Offering the wing, extra trunk, splitter and gt4 rep splitter for the splitter at 2200

skxf430 · 03-06-2014, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TheKosherStogie

I also may be selling my APR Wing w/Trunk and Splitter w/Lip combo together if interested. message me

What's next???

TheKosherStogie · 03-07-2014, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by skxf430

What's next???

That's not why but I'm not quite sure right now. Not necessarily getting rid of it

03///m3 · 03-07-2014, 07:32 PM

Does anyone run the Turner Motorsport rear carbon spoiler? They use it on their Grand Am (now TUSC) M3. Looks really nice.

http://www.turnermotorsport.com/p-11...i-335i-m3.aspx

Billj747 · 03-07-2014, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by 03///m3

Does anyone run the Turner Motorsport rear carbon spoiler? They use it on their Grand Am (now TUSC) M3. Looks really nice.

http://www.turnermotorsport.com/p-11...i-335i-m3.aspx

I'd give it enough credit to call it a wing. Its the spec wing used in the GS class and while I really like the looks of it and think its a visually more streetable option, the GT250 and many others will give you a far better lift to drag ratio and performance per dollar.

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Originally Posted by Billj747

Its pretty much an E36 "LTW" wing.

http://store.bimmerworld.com/e92-m3-...ing-p1625.aspx

MFKN3 · 03-26-2014, 08:07 PM

I'm trying to shave a couple seconds off my lap times. Has anyone got before and after wing install feedback?

My car is putting down a tremendous amount of power, I have the lip, BBK, suspension, slicks, etc, but a couple of tighter corners I have to understeer to maintain rear traction at high speeds.

I'll also be getting wider rear rubber soon, rather than square setup.

TheKosherStogie · 03-27-2014, 05:44 PM

First session at willow springs I took off 2 seconds and 1.5 at buttonwillow

hgmotorsports · 03-28-2014, 06:03 PM

Just to follow up with this thread. I have the GTC300 on my car and I dropped around 4 seconds at Willow Springs in my 335i. You will need, as people have said, to counteract all of the rear downforce with a front splitter. You want the splitter/lip combo to run around 4"-6" from the bottom of your bumper. Anymore is just creating drag (unless you have 600whp+).

As for which wing performs best, I will be switching from my 67" GTC300 to 71" GT250. The GT250 will have less downforce, but an extremely less amount of drag. The benefits of the less drag outweigh the benefits of more downforce (which can be increased by AOA). APR only offered the GTC300 at the time I got mine, as I was one of the first cars on either forums running a wing, Tightie would always make fun of it at his track events until he tried it hahahaha.

Either way you will be happy with the product, but the GT250 is the more intelligent of the designs.

-Mike

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E92inSG Captain 585 Rep 817 Posts Drives: F80 M3 Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Asia iTrader: (1)	Ok kinda leaning towards the 61" GTC-300 at the moment. http://www.rush-works.com/wp-content.../apr_new_3.jpg __________________ IG @f80_guy
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TheKosherStogie Lieutenant Colonel 380 Rep 1,805 Posts Drives: 08 M3 DCT AW/Red Join Date: May 2009 Location: West Hollywood iTrader: (1)	I also may be selling my APR Wing w/Trunk and Splitter w/Lip combo together if interested. message me __________________ 17' M2 DCT - KW CS - Re71r - Carbotech BW C13 - 1:57:2 ACS - 1:49:6 WSIR - 1:30:6
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03///m3 First Lieutenant 57 Rep 355 Posts Drives: 2013 E92 M3 Join Date: Sep 2007 iTrader: (1)	Does anyone run the Turner Motorsport rear carbon spoiler? They use it on their Grand Am (now TUSC) M3. Looks really nice. http://www.turnermotorsport.com/p-11...i-335i-m3.aspx
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03-26-2014, 08:07 PM	#61
MFKN3 Colonel 157 Rep 2,236 Posts Drives: supercharged 4.4L stroker E92 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Australia iTrader: (2)	I'm trying to shave a couple seconds off my lap times. Has anyone got before and after wing install feedback? My car is putting down a tremendous amount of power, I have the lip, BBK, suspension, slicks, etc, but a couple of tighter corners I have to understeer to maintain rear traction at high speeds. I'll also be getting wider rear rubber soon, rather than square setup.
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03-27-2014, 05:44 PM	#62
TheKosherStogie Lieutenant Colonel 380 Rep 1,805 Posts Drives: 08 M3 DCT AW/Red Join Date: May 2009 Location: West Hollywood iTrader: (1)	First session at willow springs I took off 2 seconds and 1.5 at buttonwillow
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03-28-2014, 06:03 PM	#63
hgmotorsports 87 Rep 256 Posts Drives: Drives at Redline Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: San Diego, CA iTrader: (0)	Just to follow up with this thread. I have the GTC300 on my car and I dropped around 4 seconds at Willow Springs in my 335i. You will need, as people have said, to counteract all of the rear downforce with a front splitter. You want the splitter/lip combo to run around 4"-6" from the bottom of your bumper. Anymore is just creating drag (unless you have 600whp+). As for which wing performs best, I will be switching from my 67" GTC300 to 71" GT250. The GT250 will have less downforce, but an extremely less amount of drag. The benefits of the less drag outweigh the benefits of more downforce (which can be increased by AOA). APR only offered the GTC300 at the time I got mine, as I was one of the first cars on either forums running a wing, Tightie would always make fun of it at his track events until he tried it hahahaha. Either way you will be happy with the product, but the GT250 is the more intelligent of the designs. -Mike
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