C63 Black

Petlizard · 07-24-2011, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by CAPSGOD

Why are you so furious?

It's a Clk63 BS owner who is upset that his car might no longer be the most sought after Black Series in a few months when the c63 BS drops.

driftster · 07-24-2011, 11:55 PM

Negatory, i'll stick to my coveted e's thank you....

I mean apparently people are going to be getting the shaft for buying a E with a bodykit and less space..

sucks for them...

Funny point is..CLk63 will still top this thing in the performance books, but then again it's rare for a modern benz to outclass a predecessor..

Erhan · 07-25-2011, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by driftster

Ok bare with me for a moment will you all, i have some issues with this vehicle..

For the cost of this car you can quite literally buy BOTH of those AMG's the C63 and E63 and probably have cash to spare.

Anytime I see a car that is north of 100k, or close to 150k, I can't think but ask this question: Why not GT3/RS?

CAPSGOD · 07-25-2011, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Petlizard

It's a Clk63 BS owner who is upset that his car might no longer be the most sought after Black Series in a few months when the c63 BS drops.

Apparently he has a 325 but added M3 for our forum..

http://mbworld.org/forums/4767385-post46.html

stylinexpat · 07-25-2011, 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by jakerx8

Very nice looking car. Maybe i'll trade in my new m3 for it if it is under 90k

Under $90K and you don't even need to think about it

I would in a heartbeat

driftster · 07-25-2011, 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by CAPSGOD

Apparently he has a 325 but added M3 for our forum..

http://mbworld.org/forums/4767385-post46.html

Lol actually my cute little troll-ish fan-girl. A few cars were excluded from both lists, considering the topic of my post I figure including the M moniker would just evoke the a-typical "You don't know what you're saying Fanboy, look he has an M...fanboy bimmer douche" response.. It's good to know my efforts did not go unnoticed, and i'm very flattered to have you swinging from righty..

In all reality, i try to avoid single make/brand boards because of the perpetual infighting and false information they tend to spread like the plague.. But the overwhelming praise and general lack of understanding what is going on underneath the metal of this car prompted a post or two.

SCCAForums.com · 07-25-2011, 11:49 AM

C63 Black is gonna be sweet... very impressed so far... will be surprising if less than $100K based on last C class black series in '08.

I just need the back seat... wish they could allow that as an 'option'... this would be a great DD!

Not sure about that Aero package?

Mprofiler · 07-25-2011, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by SCCAForums.com

C63 Black is gonna be sweet... very impressed so far... will be surprising if less than $100K based on last C class black series in '08.

I just need the back seat... wish they could allow that as an 'option'... this would be a great DD!

Not sure about that Aero package?

It has an option to add rear seats based on the press release. For the US, the BS gets the same seats as those in the c63 coupe.

FStop7 · 07-25-2011, 11:58 AM

Aero package is a no go.

John Tanglewood · 07-25-2011, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by erhanh

Anytime I see a car that is north of 100k, or close to 150k, I can't think but ask this question: Why not GT3/RS?

Bc not everyone has a hard-on for a freaking Porsche.

M370z · 07-25-2011, 01:54 PM

Most of the talk on the Benz forums has these ultimately going for between 100-120k...

-=Hot|Ice=- · 07-25-2011, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ferrari4evr1

The new C63 "black" is one amazing machine. I happen to love the design.
I think horsepower isn't everything though. Take for example that Top Gear episode - M3 vs RS4 vs C63. The C63 had about 40 more HP than the M3. The M3 spanked the C63 around the track by 5 seconds. Not saying anything bad about the Merc at all but, HP isn't everything IMO.

I would definitely like to see an M5 comparison with this C63 Black!

You are absolutely correct. Remember though, Mercedes tweaked the suspension for 2011 and the BS gets this revised suspension. Reviews say the C63 AMG communicates better then the M3 and could take the M3 around a track. It took them 5 years, but they did it.

-=Hot|Ice=- · 07-25-2011, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by erhanh

Anytime I see a car that is north of 100k, or close to 150k, I can't think but ask this question: Why not GT3/RS?

Not everyone wants a track car. The C63 AMG BS still fulfills that practicality aspect of things as you can option the rear seats back into the car.

Mprofiler · 07-25-2011, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by -=Hot|Ice=-

You are absolutely correct. Remember though, Mercedes tweaked the suspension for 2011 and the BS gets this revised suspension. Reviews say the C63 AMG communicates better then the M3 and could take the M3 around a track. It took them 5 years, but they did it.

The BS is going to get a new adjustable coilover setup. Should handle even better than the c63, probably even more comfortable on the street too if it's configured right.

"The AMG sports suspension is a sophisticated new development. Conceived as a coil-over suspension -- as is the norm in motorsport and a typical feature of Black Series models -- it offers a range of setting options, and allows the driver to create an individual set-up. Track has been widened by 1.57 inches (front) and 3.11 inches (rear). In conjunction with modified anti-roll bars, the C63 AMG Coupe Black Series delivers impressive dynamics, tenacious grip and minimal body roll. The AMG speed-sensitive sports steering facilitates superb vehicle control, with modified mapping of the power assistance for maximum steering precision."

-=Hot|Ice=- · 07-25-2011, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Mprofiler

The BS is going to get a new adjustable coilover setup. Should handle even better than the c63, probably even more comfortable on the street too if it's configured right.

"The AMG sports suspension is a sophisticated new development. Conceived as a coil-over suspension -- as is the norm in motorsport and a typical feature of Black Series models -- it offers a range of setting options, and allows the driver to create an individual set-up. Track has been widened by 1.57 inches (front) and 3.11 inches (rear). In conjunction with modified anti-roll bars, the C63 AMG Coupe Black Series delivers impressive dynamics, tenacious grip and minimal body roll. The AMG speed-sensitive sports steering facilitates superb vehicle control, with modified mapping of the power assistance for maximum steering precision."

Thanks for the correction! The BS blows the M3 away really. Mercedes has done an excellent job in creating an M3 killer. Better late then never, right?

Mprofiler · 07-25-2011, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by -=Hot|Ice=-

Thanks for the correction! The BS blows the M3 away really. Mercedes has done an excellent job in creating an M3 killer. Better late then never, right?

Yes, the 2012 c63's has been getting good reviews. I hope the BS will get reviewed soon.

See5 · 07-25-2011, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by erhanh

Anytime I see a car that is north of 100k, or close to 150k, I can't think but ask this question: Why not GT3/RS?

Porsches don't have everything everyone is looking for. I'd get a Z06/ZR1 over a GT3. There's the GT-R in that price range, R8, maybe R8 V10, this Mercedes, V8 Vantage, probably some others I'm forgetting especially used. Something for everyone.

Mprofiler · 07-25-2011, 02:49 PM

This car is also capable of carrying 2 in the rear, which is something that a lot of these cars in this category are unable to do.

devo · 07-25-2011, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mprofiler

This car is also capable of carrying 2 in the rear, which is something that a lot of these cars in this category are unable to do.

They are unable to by choice. Some buyers in these categories do not care nor want rear seat capability. As much as I really dig this car, I think the M3 would still be more fun and about $30-40k less for a 335 winter rat.

Mprofiler · 07-25-2011, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by devo

They are unable to by choice. Some buyers in these categories do not care nor want rear seat capability. As much as I really dig this car, I think the M3 would still be more fun and about $30-40k less for a 335 winter rat.

What do you mean by choice? The BS just seems more practical for everyday driving when not using it on a track. Personally, I would like to carry more than one friend. I mean this BS seems to be targeting gt3's and the M3 gts without the wing or with the wing if you prefer to add it in... It can be track tool when you want it to be, but also have room for 3 others.

-=Hot|Ice=- · 07-25-2011, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by devo

They are unable to by choice. Some buyers in these categories do not care nor want rear seat capability. As much as I really dig this car, I think the M3 would still be more fun and about $30-40k less for a 335 winter rat.

Can't really compare the M3 to the C63 AMG BS.

driftster · 07-25-2011, 03:46 PM

Except you probably will be able to, considering the m3 is competative with the CLK63 BS, of which has a better power to weight and more R&D going into it's construction...

Funny, i wonder how much of a difference there will be between a 60k BMW on optioned tires....and a 130,000 dollar "racing benz"

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