Oil Analysis Reports

Som · 04-11-2016, 05:47 PM

I had that test done over a year ago. Do they even keep samples that long?

Som

dparm · 04-15-2016, 07:27 PM

Another stellar report from my car on TWS.

Worth noting that I don't drive it during the winter and it's not even really a DD since I typically travel on an airplane during the week. It does see plenty of WOT, autocrosses, and a few track days. That's only 7,500 miles in almost 2 years!

New oil is the BMW M TwinPower Turbo 10w60.

CHE///MIST3 · 05-02-2016, 06:13 PM

Just performed the first oil change for this car under my ownership, and went with Castrol 10W/60. I'm currently at 40K miles.

I purchased this car at 34,000 miles about a year ago, and its last oil change was at 33,650 miles at BMW. I do a mixture of city and highway driving and sometimes do drive it hard...I love it ! Hopefully on the next oil report the lead will drop a good amount. I've recently turned this car into my daily driver (will be 90% highway miles) so hopefully that will help stabilize a nice trend I can watch over time...and keep the bearings lubed better with more frequent start-ups and fewer cold starts.

I'm not too concerned...just gonna keep on driving

Will report back at 47K miles.

GM

bimmer414 · 05-03-2016, 11:48 PM

What do you guys think? Bearings ready to go nuclear?

italyix · 05-05-2016, 04:17 PM

Just got my sample back from testing. I lapsed one oil change sample at 77356 and this one had 8519 on it, for a total mileage on the car of 85875.

Should I be alarmed?

On a side note, last weekend I went for a spirited drive and in the higher rpm range the engine was making very loud clicking noises, not like injector clicks but like when you put a baseball trading card in your bicycle and the spokes of the tire. Rod knock?

Doc Oc · 05-06-2016, 11:19 AM

Something definitely happened to spike your lead. Were you running the same oil on the previous reports? Your copper isn't bad so that's good, but a lead spike like that would alarm me. Could that playing card sound have been detonation? Detonation sounds like popcorn popping under the hood and generally only lasts a short period of time before the car (or right foot) dials things back. It can definitely cause a spike in lead and beat up your bearings although it shouldn't be happening if your car is stock.

nydog · 05-11-2016, 07:11 PM

I got my oil analysis report today. I purchased the car at just over 52k miles a couple of months ago and the oil was changed at a BMW dealer in prep for the purchase. The analysis represents oil that had less than 3k miles on it when it was drained. I plan on 5k mile oil change intervals and I'm going to stick with the BMW oil.

W/// · 05-12-2016, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by italyix

Just got my sample back from testing. I lapsed one oil change sample at 77356 and this one had 8519 on it, for a total mileage on the car of 85875.

Should I be alarmed?

On a side note, last weekend I went for a spirited drive and in the higher rpm range the engine was making very loud clicking noises, not like injector clicks but like when you put a baseball trading card in your bicycle and the spokes of the tire. Rod knock?

Personally, I'd change it. That's a big spike from one oil change. My 2 cents

Drift Unit · 05-12-2016, 12:13 PM

I just received my first report...

Doc Oc · 05-12-2016, 07:25 PM

Most recent UOA. 50/50 mix of red line 0w40 and 5w50

ash4390 · 05-15-2016, 10:22 AM

Just got mine back -- car has 69000km on it now (11000 under my ownership). Using TWS -- just did the oil change at about 10,000km.

Zero lead which is nice, any thoughts on the sodium?

Flea7 · 05-15-2016, 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ash4390

Just got mine back -- car has 69000km on it now (11000 under my ownership). Using TWS -- just did the oil change at about 10,000km.

Zero lead which is nice, any thoughts on the sodium?

Zero lead is probably due to you not having lead bearings. You must have the updated bearings

dparm · 05-15-2016, 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flea7

Zero lead is probably due to you not having lead bearings. You must have the updated bearings

Possibly. There is a margin of error on any oil analysis. Regardless, the important thing is to establish a baseline for your given motor and then compare over time.

ash4390 · 05-16-2016, 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flea7

Zero lead is probably due to you not having lead bearings. You must have the updated bearings

Are the updated bearings prone to failing as well?

Shredicus · 05-16-2016, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ash4390

Are the updated bearings prone to failing as well?

Most certainly

ash4390 · 05-16-2016, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shredicus

Most certainly

Goodie! So I guess a UOA won't show the symptoms in my case. I'll have to pull the bearings (might as well change at that point).

I still have warranty til the end of 2017 so hopefully if anything happens it'll be between now and then.

kaede · 05-16-2016, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ash4390

Goodie! So I guess a UOA won't show the symptoms in my case. I'll have to pull the bearings (might as well change at that point).

I still have warranty til the end of 2017 so hopefully if anything happens it'll be between now and then.

If you have warranty then don't sweat it. Stick to OEM oil, half the OCI, you should be gold. By the end of 2017 is when you have to decide whether or not you want to do it as preventative maintenance.

Flea7 · 05-16-2016, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaede

If you have warranty then don't sweat it. Stick to OEM oil, half the OCI, you should be gold. By the end of 2017 is when you have to decide whether or not you want to do it as preventative maintenance.

This!

Btw, I love Vancouver !!!

kaede · 05-16-2016, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flea7

This!

Btw, I love Vancouver !!!

Come

with our dollar weak as hell, you can have a mini getaway for cheap! Cheers!

admranger · 05-17-2016, 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ash4390

Zero lead which is nice, any thoughts on the sodium?

Gotta watch out for high blood pressure with that much sodium.

Your bearings don't have lead. It's an EU environmental thing.

Keep collecting data and look for trends in the wear items. So far no one has seen a leading indicator (of impending failure) with our non-lead bearing cars, so more data is needed.

BillK · 05-18-2016, 07:59 PM

I noticed a lot of people are sticking with castrol TWS instead of the new Twin Power. Why? And where are you all buying the TWS from?

admranger · 05-18-2016, 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillK

I noticed a lot of people are sticking with castrol TWS instead of the new Twin Power. Why? And where are you all buying the TWS from?

I get mine online. I just got some from Rocky Mountain European auto parts. Look at FCP Euro as they are closer to you. ECS Tuning also sells it and is closer to you than RM.

04-11-2016, 05:47 PM	#683
Som New Member 6 Rep 27 Posts Drives: 2009 E92 M3 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: San Diego iTrader: (1)	I had that test done over a year ago. Do they even keep samples that long? Som
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04-15-2016, 07:27 PM	#684
dparm Stop the hate, get a V8 3928 Rep 8,631 Posts Drives: C7 Corvette, Spec E46, G87 M2 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Frisco, TX iTrader: (1)	Another stellar report from my car on TWS. Worth noting that I don't drive it during the winter and it's not even really a DD since I typically travel on an airplane during the week. It does see plenty of WOT, autocrosses, and a few track days. That's only 7,500 miles in almost 2 years! New oil is the BMW M TwinPower Turbo 10w60. __________________ Now: 2017 Corvette Grand Sport, 2001 BMW Spec E46 race car, 2025 BMW M2 Past: 2011.5 M3 sedan ZCP
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05-02-2016, 06:13 PM	#685
CHE///MIST3 Captain 384 Rep 615 Posts Drives: E92 M3 6MT Space/Black Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Houston, TX iTrader: (6) Garage List 2009 BMW M3 [0.00] 2007 BMW 328i [0.00]	First Blackstone report Just performed the first oil change for this car under my ownership, and went with Castrol 10W/60. I'm currently at 40K miles. I purchased this car at 34,000 miles about a year ago, and its last oil change was at 33,650 miles at BMW. I do a mixture of city and highway driving and sometimes do drive it hard...I love it ! Hopefully on the next oil report the lead will drop a good amount. I've recently turned this car into my daily driver (will be 90% highway miles) so hopefully that will help stabilize a nice trend I can watch over time...and keep the bearings lubed better with more frequent start-ups and fewer cold starts. I'm not too concerned...just gonna keep on driving Will report back at 47K miles. GM Attached Images
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05-03-2016, 11:48 PM	#686
bimmer414 Private First Class 75 Rep 183 Posts Drives: 2008 M3 E90 Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Wisconsin iTrader: (0)	What do you guys think? Bearings ready to go nuclear? Attached Images __________________ 08 E90 M3 - 6MT, Interlagos Blue, no moonroof, tech package, carbon trim, silver interior. -------------------------------------------------------------------
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05-05-2016, 04:17 PM	#687
italyix Captain 158 Rep 988 Posts Drives: '08 E90 M3 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Bay Area iTrader: (5)	Just got my sample back from testing. I lapsed one oil change sample at 77356 and this one had 8519 on it, for a total mileage on the car of 85875. Should I be alarmed? On a side note, last weekend I went for a spirited drive and in the higher rpm range the engine was making very loud clicking noises, not like injector clicks but like when you put a baseball trading card in your bicycle and the spokes of the tire. Rod knock? Attached Images __________________ Mods: too many the list wont fit in the sig page. PM me Tesla Referral code: http://ts.la/juliana77782
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05-06-2016, 11:19 AM	#688
Doc Oc Captain Fatbelly 1474 Rep 1,994 Posts Drives: C63 amg Join Date: May 2015 Location: Upyourbuttandtotheleft iTrader: (0)	Something definitely happened to spike your lead. Were you running the same oil on the previous reports? Your copper isn't bad so that's good, but a lead spike like that would alarm me. Could that playing card sound have been detonation? Detonation sounds like popcorn popping under the hood and generally only lasts a short period of time before the car (or right foot) dials things back. It can definitely cause a spike in lead and beat up your bearings although it shouldn't be happening if your car is stock. __________________ 2013 c63 Amg coupe p31, v7 tune, plm headers, armytrix downpipes, EflexFuel 2008 dct coupe, evolve engine/dct tune, ttp, ms intake, megan exhaust, cf ds. Sold. Last edited by Doc Oc; 05-06-2016 at 11:36 AM..
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05-11-2016, 07:11 PM	#689
nydog Private First Class 48 Rep 192 Posts Drives: e92 M3 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Beacon, NY iTrader: (0)	I got my oil analysis report today. I purchased the car at just over 52k miles a couple of months ago and the oil was changed at a BMW dealer in prep for the purchase. The analysis represents oil that had less than 3k miles on it when it was drained. I plan on 5k mile oil change intervals and I'm going to stick with the BMW oil. Attached Images Last edited by nydog; 05-11-2016 at 07:17 PM..
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05-12-2016, 12:13 PM	#691
Drift Unit Second Lieutenant 44 Rep 233 Posts Drives: 2008 e90 m3 Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Denver,Colorado iTrader: (3)	I just received my first report... Attached Images
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05-15-2016, 10:22 AM	#693
ash4390 First Lieutenant 772 Rep 373 Posts Drives: 718 Spyder, Bronco Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Vancouver iTrader: (0)	Just got mine back -- car has 69000km on it now (11000 under my ownership). Using TWS -- just did the oil change at about 10,000km. Zero lead which is nice, any thoughts on the sodium?
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05-18-2016, 07:59 PM	#703
BillK Private First Class 54 Rep 185 Posts Drives: 95 M3, 11 M3, 15 X5d, 20 X2 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: MD iTrader: (0)	I noticed a lot of people are sticking with castrol TWS instead of the new Twin Power. Why? And where are you all buying the TWS from?
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