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Originally Posted by zx10guy View Post
I actually think much of the people buying isn't about the styling but the badge. BMW has done a great job of combining social prestige with owning a BMW.
Neah - luxury buyers have options, and the fact of BMW sales growing y/y is the ultimate answer to the question whether or not the styling updates are landing or falling flat.

I don't particularly like G80 styling, but the fact that G80 outsold F80 means BMW made the right styling decision for the overall market. Not necessarily for me, but for the market overall.
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Just for reference I'm not even just saying that everything on there is "bad" (but some of it definitely is). I'm more shocked just by how there is no thematic identity whatsoever across all the different models. There are 13 different iterations of kidney grills - some are round, some are more octagonal, some are hoffmeistery, some are vertical, some are f***ing huge.
Yeah, the lineup is going through design language refresh with NK (Neue Klasse, not North Korea) styling showing up as cars are updated. It will take 2-4 years for the full lineup refresh to look semi-consistent.

Until then, the best looking new BMW (to my eyes) is the upcoming ///M3 EV that returns to the horizontal (not vertical) kidney grills:
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a7...asse-revealed/

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BMW is (was?) positioned as the car for people who like to drive. Contrast that with MB and Lexus - more for those who tolerate driving.
That's a gross exegeration.
Lexus LFA will outhandle and LC500 will out-"look" and out-"sound" anything in BMW lineup.
Just like Model 3 will now out-handle and out-accelerate G20 (they weight about the same!).

The only decent BMWs are a few true ///M-cars (not trucks).
The rest of the lineup is design to appeal to the mini-van/SUV buyers.

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as the world moves to EVs, it's going to be tough for BMW. "Hearing" and "feeling" the car don't mean the same thing in an EV.
"Feeling" the car and "handling" mean exactly the same thing, regardless of method of propulation. Don't let EV-haters tell you otherwise.
Go and test drive a Model 3 Performance and see for yourself. Or better yet, wait for ///M3-EV to come out!



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