Well I got my E90 M3 back this morning! New Clutch, Flywheel and Throw-out Bearing. No more noise. The only thing I need to check out is it feels like the put the stock clutch spring back in since I changed mine to the '09 clutch spring.
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hahahah, must be nice to be out of that Chrysler!
quackman wroteActually when they told me they had to replace the parts & of course order them, I asked to be put in a BMW loaner & they did...a '10 328i with only 2200 miles on it.hahahah, must be nice to be out of that Chrysler!
dimabimmer wroteA quarter... send me some of what the dealer is smoking. They are on fricking CRACK... Sounds like they found THEIR mistake and made up some bull shit story. I NEVER go back to that dealer....probably fell out of techs pocket while they were taking car apart? In any case I never got to see the damn quarter and just maybe they made it all up... this whole "service" is such a scam.
Could the quarter get inside through air vent from under the seat somehow? ....and I assume staying in the vent making all that noise and never getting into tranny? Thats what I was thinking when they told me they found quarter...
mrtm2008 wroteAh the story thickens. You put another pressure plate in your car. ?????? Where did you get the pressure plate from.... Now that I've seen all of your thread, it appears that the answer was in the pressure plate you added.Well I got my E90 M3 back this morning! New Clutch, Flywheel and Throw-out Bearing. No more noise. The only thing I need to check out is it feels like the put the stock clutch spring back in since I changed mine to the '09 clutch spring.
mrtm2008 wroteI think I have this same noise happen to me a few times. It does sound like a metal ping pong ball bouncing around. I heard it in my garage a few times, and when driving slow once in a shopping mall. I thought it was the POS car behind me, and it was my M3Well, I had my E90 M3 6MT in for the 15k mile service interval today at Braman BMW in West Palm Beach. I waited on my car & drove it home. I noticed first that the oil was now at Max, unlike when I changed my oil at 7000 miles & it was just about 3/4 of the max indicator so I wanted to let the car sit for a bit & go back & check it out on a real flat surface.
Well, as I start the car up, I hear some noise coming from somewhere that sounded almost like something was stuck somewhere, like a ping pong ball floating around hitting things. I called my SA & told him that that noise was definetly not there before the oil change. I drove down & they put the M3 on the lift immediately.
From the looks of it, it sounds like either the double weighted flywheel or the throw-out bearing is toast. They will be taking things apart tomorrow & letting me know what the problem is. It's all covered under the warranty (thank god) but now I got a stupid rental loaner, chrysler cebring convertable till it's fixed!
It only happened a few times. I did manage to record it on my phone, I'll see if I can post it here to compare. I would like to get new parts while the car is under warranty of course. A new clutch at 15k miles would be nice.
rcornelius wroteNo, he means the clutch pedal return spring. 2007/08 models had a single return spring in the pedal, 2009/10 models have a dual-spring assembly (looks like a little coilover).Ah the story thickens. You put another pressure plate in your car. ?????? Where did you get the pressure plate from.... Now that I've seen all of your thread, it appears that the answer was in the pressure plate you added.
As a side note... It all has to do with how the clutch resistance feels when you push it in. The spring assembly is designed to make it a tad harder to push in in the first part of the travel, and then it "gives in" and it makes it easy to keep the clutch pedal pressed to the floor. (I guess to make it easier to hold in traffic?)
Some people upgrade from the old model to the new model, some people do the opposite. I tried to remove mine altogether to make it feel more linear, but found out the clutch pedal had too much side-to-side movement with the spring assembly removed.
rcornelius wroteI'm not sure it is a pressure plate I am talking about. I replaced the stock OEM '08 Clutch Spring (Black One on left) with the '09 OEM Clutch Spring (Yellowish one on Right) in this post:Ah the story thickens. You put another pressure plate in your car. ?????? Where did you get the pressure plate from.... Now that I've seen all of your thread, it appears that the answer was in the pressure plate you added.
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5647628&postcount=18
This Clutch Spring is used in the '09-Present 6MTs! So I do not believe it was the clutch spring that caused this.
mrtm2008 wroteOk, understand. The clutch pedal return spring is what you were speaking of. On a side note there are numerous springs located on the pressure plate, depending on the manufacture and type of pressure plate. Some times on whats called heavy duty pressure plates the springs will work themselves loose as to where they no longer have tension on them. At low engine speeds in an enclosed garage you can hear them rattle. At high engine speeds you tend to not hear them. Just guessing that this is what the issue was with your ride.I'm not sure it is a pressure plate I am talking about. I replaced the stock OEM '08 Clutch Spring (Black One on left) with the '09 OEM Clutch Spring (Yellowish one on Right) in this post:
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5647628&postcount=18
This Clutch Spring is used in the '09-Present 6MTs! So I do not believe it was the clutch spring that caused this.
rcornelius wroteThanks for the clearification tooo...Yah, this is what the SA said was a possibility, though they didn't see anything physically wrong with the pressure plate. Also, I did take a look & they didn't replace the clutch return spring...so I guess I wasn't used to using a clutch again after a week and a half of not naving my carOk, understand. The clutch pedal return spring is what you were speaking of. On a side note there are numerous springs located on the pressure plate, depending on the manufacture and type of pressure plate. Some times on whats called heavy duty pressure plates the springs will work themselves loose as to where they no longer have tension on them. At low engine speeds in an enclosed garage you can hear them rattle. At high engine speeds you tend to not hear them. Just guessing that this is what the issue was with your ride.
dimabimmer wroteI admit I've always been a bit of a conspiracy theorist - but doesn't BMW pay the dealerships for work done under warranty? This would make it "easier" for the dealership to justify doing it on purpose.Could they brake/damage the car deliberately, so that you spend money there fixing it? Businesses are very desperate for survival in recession. One old man told me this story once,- In 1930's he drove in a truck with his dad, delivering apples. Times were very tough, no jobs, no money, everyone was broke, everyone was desperate. The truck he drove with his dad was braking down every week. So, they kept driving this truck back into repair shop over and over again, and it just kept on braking...untill one other time they brought the truck back in for repairs, one of the workers at the station went over this man's father-driver of truck and told him, that the shop mechanics brake, and damage parts in his truck deliberately...the man was fired on the spot...so they had to take this honest and brave shop worker with them to work in the fields picking up apples, where he worked with them for the next 20 years or so... True story.
My stealer toasted the clutch in my E36 a few years back. Smelled awful. They claimed a plastic bag had gotten stuck to the exhaust and the melting plastic was making the odor. NOT! They replaced for 1/2 price.
