How do I get that SPECTACULAR stance?

Here's a few pics of Macht Schnell spacers 15f /10r.
I bought them from EAS, Tom was great as he fixed a problem I had with the spacers and was very professional with replacing them.
Great vendor to deal with.

Macht Schnell 15/12 is a great combo.

we offer H&R or the Eibach springs and the H&R is a great drop if you want slammed without going coilovers and the Eibach for a little more conservative look.

I have 15F/12R Macht Schnell with Eibach and I feel it gives the perfect look if you still want the car to look stock. The H&R and RDSport lower the car too much to pass for stock, and anything > 12 in the rear also won't pass for stock. You could probably go wider in the front but you probably don't want to alter the difference between the front track and rear track too drastically from stock.\

Depends on what look you want - I was after the subtle aggressive rather than the all out aggressive look...when I get a chance I'll post up some pictures...

In terms of handling, car feels more planted and turn in is more positive, definitely better IMO. Haven't noticed anything with turning circle either. Haven't had any issues with the spacers at speed either, as long as they are installed correctly and you use a top brand like Macht Schnell, all good...

mixja wrote

I have 15F/12R Macht Schnell with Eibach and I feel it gives the perfect look if you still want the car to look stock. The H&R and RDSport lower the car too much to pass for stock, and anything > 12 in the rear also won't pass for stock. You could probably go wider in the front but you probably don't want to alter the difference between the front track and rear track too drastically from stock.\

Depends on what look you want - I was after the subtle aggressive rather than the all out aggressive look...when I get a chance I'll post up some pictures...

In terms of handling, car feels more planted and turn in is more positive, definitely better IMO. Haven't noticed anything with turning circle either. Haven't had any issues with the spacers at speed either, as long as they are installed correctly and you use a top brand like Macht Schnell, all good...

Looking forward to the pictures.

I heard that for a really aggressive look you can do 18F/15R....correct me if I'm wrong?

I'm still stuck on rd sports & 15mm h&r's all around!

JEMarsal wrote

I heard that for a really aggressive look you can do 18F/15R....correct me if I'm wrong?

Nope - you're correct! We refer to the 15/18mm setups as "Bulldog Stance".

We have started an archive of different spacer setups here:

▀▄ eas - Macht Schnell wheel spacer reference thread
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=262054

This should aid a bit in the decision making.

i am running 15F/15R Rogue spacers on RD Sports with OEM 18"s. if i were to do it again, i would do 18F/15R. 10R is WAYYYY too tucked and 12R still looks like it's missing something.

as a side note, under heavy cornering, if i hit a big dip mid corner, the rear will rub if i'm not on medium or full stiff EDC setting.

perfect setup is 18mm front / 15mm rear.

SECRET M wrote

i am running 15F/15R Rogue spacers on RD Sports with OEM 18"s. if i were to do it again, i would do 18F/15R. 10R is WAYYYY too tucked and 12R still looks like it's missing something.

as a side note, under heavy cornering, if i hit a big dip mid corner, the rear will rub if i'm not on medium or full stiff EDC setting.

perfect setup is 18mm front / 15mm rear.

I also feel that the front tires could be a little more spaced like you said (especially on 18" oems), 18f and 15r.......But then I will feel even more uncomfortable since the front and rear have not been spaced out evenly. Don't you think that the spacing distance should be kept at the same all around?

mixja wrote

I have 15F/12R Macht Schnell with Eibach and I feel it gives the perfect look if you still want the car to look stock. The H&R and RDSport lower the car too much to pass for stock, and anything > 12 in the rear also won't pass for stock. You could probably go wider in the front but you probably don't want to alter the difference between the front track and rear track too drastically from stock.\

Depends on what look you want - I was after the subtle aggressive rather than the all out aggressive look...when I get a chance I'll post up some pictures...

In terms of handling, car feels more planted and turn in is more positive, definitely better IMO. Haven't noticed anything with turning circle either. Haven't had any issues with the spacers at speed either, as long as they are installed correctly and you use a top brand like Macht Schnell, all good...

Pictures as promised - 15F/12R Macht Schnell, Eibach Pro springs (0.8" lower in front, 0.6" lower in rear)

^Awesome pics! I'm very impressed. Now it's time to change out that stock exhaust, eh?

Nawaaz wrote

^Awesome pics! I'm very impressed. Now it's time to change out that stock exhaust, eh?

Yep - seriously considering Akrapovic...

mixja wrote

Yep - seriously considering Akrapovic...

Great quality full exhaust.....But unfortunately not loud enough for me.

Robert B wrote

Tom -
Would your recommendation of 15/12 spacers be the same for an E90 with 19" OEM wheels?
Thanks

Here is my e90 with 19" OEM wheels and 12mm spacers all around.

Enjoy.

Car in stock form upon delivery.
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^^^Looks SWEET man!!!

Nawaaz wrote

^^^Looks SWEET man!!!

Thanks!

Just an update. While I thought that there was no evidence of rubbing on the rear fender, I was wrong. The OEM 19" tires do actually rub on the plastic liner towards the rear of the rear fender with the 12mm spacer. This only happens rarely when the rear suspension is fully compressed, but it does happen. I suppose the 10mm spacer wouldn't cause any rubbing at all. I know some people have the 15mm spacers on the rear but that will definitely rub on the plastic liner.

^ Thanks for the update. I went through giving a lot effort to see if I should go with springs and spacers.......But it turns out that I'm most likely gonna keep the suspension stock. The reason: I feel that the stock suspension is brilliant, and I don't want to mess with it. I do feel tempted to go with springs/spacers, but I've learned that they are purely cosmetic.

With that said, I will mess with the stock exhaust, software, shifter......But probably not the suspension.

That's my update for the time being.

Nawaaz wrote

^ Thanks for the update. I went through giving a lot effort to see if I should go with springs and spacers.......But it turns out that I'm most likely gonna keep the suspension stock. The reason: I feel that the stock suspension is brilliant, and I don't want to mess with it. I do feel tempted to go with springs/spacers, but I've learned that they are purely cosmetic.

With that said, I will mess with the stock exhaust, software, shifter......But probably not the suspension.

That's my update for the time being.

I tend to disagree - I felt no performance increase with just Eibach Pro springs, but when I added spacers I definitely felt an improvement - car feels more planted and turn-in is sharper.

mixja wrote

I tend to disagree - I felt no performance increase with just Eibach Pro springs, but when I added spacers I definitely felt an improvement - car feels more planted and turn-in is sharper.

I've heard the car may feel more planted or more stable, but that's just the 'feeling'. I've read that the car may still not actually be faster through the track compared to stock form. In fact, it could could bring down your lap time by a few tenths.

I understand that the average driver will not even notice this especially on public roads, but it can tend to bother a 'sensitive' person like myself.

I say within 3 months you will do it.

^ hahaha....We'll see man!