Does anyone using the Avant Garde M359, so you guys can give me some feed back about this wheels, because i don't see there are many threads about the AG359. How's the quality? I know the OEM ZCP is much better than the AG M359, but i just want to get the same look as a alternative.
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I saw a set and I thought they were of excellent quality. I have a 2011 M3 ZCP and I have to tell you I thought the AGs looked great. The AGs are a low pressure cast like OEM and are just a hair heavier.
Dave
Dave
I am going to buy a set around christmas, I would like a used set of real ones but the used prices are too close to new ones. They are better quality from what I gather than the VMR wheels because of the low pressure cast. The slight difference in weight will make no real world difference. In some of the pictures the ag look more bright silver and the oem look more of a grey tint. Maybe someone could give there thoughts on that. Could just be the pictures.
Dave07997S wroteOh, really? So in your opinion, you think the AGs are good to buy as a alternative of the oem. I think i might get one set later. Thank you.I saw a set and I thought they were of excellent quality. I have a 2011 M3 ZCP and I have to tell you I thought the AGs looked great. The AGs are a low pressure cast like OEM and are just a hair heavier.
Dave
Dave07997S wroteI saw a set and I thought they were of excellent quality. I have a 2011 M3 ZCP and I have to tell you I thought the AGs looked great. The AGs are a low pressure cast like OEM and are just a hair heavier.
Dave
kawasaki00 wroteI have an question. What does it means by low pressure cast? It means good quality?I am going to buy a set around christmas, I would like a used set of real ones but the used prices are too close to new ones. They are better quality from what I gather than the VMR wheels because of the low pressure cast. The slight difference in weight will make no real world difference. In some of the pictures the ag look more bright silver and the oem look more of a grey tint. Maybe someone could give there thoughts on that. Could just be the pictures.
This thread will explain the different castings.
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=357430
I had a set of ag wheels on a is300 lexus that were knock offs of a advan model. I had no issues with them and they looked high quality. I had no issues in the three years I used them.
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=357430
I had a set of ag wheels on a is300 lexus that were knock offs of a advan model. I had no issues with them and they looked high quality. I had no issues in the three years I used them.
kawasaki00 wroteActually the OEM are a very bright silver..I am going to buy a set around christmas, I would like a used set of real ones but the used prices are too close to new ones. They are better quality from what I gather than the VMR wheels because of the low pressure cast. The slight difference in weight will make no real world difference. In some of the pictures the ag look more bright silver and the oem look more of a grey tint. Maybe someone could give there thoughts on that. Could just be the pictures.
In the overcast sun..

raziel5201314 wroteI would always rather have OEM, but if it doesn't fit your budget the AGs are a good alternative.Oh, really? So in your opinion, you think the AGs are good to buy as a alternative of the oem. I think i might get one set later. Thank you.
Dave
AG wheels are great because they are low pressure cast. We've sold countless sets of these wheels, just can't go wrong with the price! =)
kawasaki00 wrotewow, thanks a lot. i think your opinion and thread should help me!This thread will explain the different castings.
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=357430
I had a set of ag wheels on a is300 lexus that were knock offs of a advan model. I had no issues with them and they looked high quality. I had no issues in the three years I used them.
Dave07997S wroteok, that's what i wanted to hear from people.I would always rather have OEM, but if it doesn't fit your budget the AGs are a good alternative.
Dave

i think i should go get the AGs.
Sean@PYSpeed.com wroteAG wheels are great because they are low pressure cast. We've sold countless sets of these wheels, just can't go wrong with the price! =)
Got you!! I think i am going to get it later. Does the AGs M359 wheels fit the OEM 19 inch tires?
raziel5201314 wroteThe ZCP wheel comes with OEM sizes 245/35/19 and 265/35/19, however they are stretched on there.Got you!! I think i am going to get it later. Does the AGs M359 wheels fit the OEM 19 inch tires?
I went with a 255.35.19 and 285.30.19.
Dave
Dave07997S wroteSo the AGs M359 should fit into my 19inch tires, right?The ZCP wheel comes with OEM sizes 245/35/19 and 265/35/19, however they are stretched on there.
I went with a 255.35.19 and 285.30.19.
Dave
raziel5201314 wroteWow...yes...So the AGs M359 should fit into my 19inch tires, right?
I ordered a set several months ago of the AG M359's.
I was disappointed in the paint quality. Dust in finish and lots of little bumps.
These are pictures of brand new wheels right out of the box:
https://picasaweb.google.com/100032473502361512586/AvantGardeWheelProblems?authuser=0&authkey=Gv1sRgCLzUsZqHwNbW1gE&feat=directlink
They were returned for a refund, Avant Garde didn't want to attempt exchange for some wheels without finish problems. So much for their trust in their own quality.
I was disappointed in the paint quality. Dust in finish and lots of little bumps.
These are pictures of brand new wheels right out of the box:
https://picasaweb.google.com/100032473502361512586/AvantGardeWheelProblems?authuser=0&authkey=Gv1sRgCLzUsZqHwNbW1gE&feat=directlink
They were returned for a refund, Avant Garde didn't want to attempt exchange for some wheels without finish problems. So much for their trust in their own quality.
urBan_dK wroteOh, really? It was like that when you opened the box? I can accept this problem if i used it for some mileages, because the wheels is like only a thousand more.I ordered a set several months ago of the AG M359's.
I was disappointed in the paint quality. Dust in finish and lots of little bumps.
https://picasaweb.google.com/100032473502361512586/AvantGardeWheelProblems?authuser=0&authkey=Gv1sRgCLzUsZqHwNbW1gE&feat=directlink
They were returned for a refund, Avant Garde didn't want to attempt exchange for some wheels without finish problems. So much for their trust in their own quality.
raziel5201314 wroteBrand new, out of the box.Oh, really? It was like that when you opened the box? I can accept this problem if i used it for some mileages, because the wheels is like only a thousand more.
urBan_dK wroteoh, man! that's bad!Brand new, out of the box.
urBan_dK wroteDid you buy them from a vendor here?Brand new, out of the box.
kawasaki00 wroteYes, they were purchased through PYSPEED. They did give me a refund (eventually) but wouldn't accept the return of the wheels, instead having me send them to AG directly.Did you buy them from a vendor here?
I don't want to start a vendor-bashing thread, but I was quite disappointed in PYSPEED as a vendor as well, and I won't be doing business with them in the future.
Here is my last email to them, that sort of sums up my experience:
Thanks for the refund. It came through today.
There are a couple things you guys should consider addressing that would be helpful for future customers. I will not be repeating my business with PYSpeed because of the following things:
1. FALSE INFORMATION - Your thread ( http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=702031 ) lists you as a stocking vendor. THIS IS FALSE! You are a drop ship vendor and claim to be stocking due to a few accounting sleights of hand. Your "stock" is still at Avant Garde. If you truly were a stocking vendor, you would process returns directly instead of making me wait for Avant Garde to send YOU a refund and inspect your inventory before sending it out. Further more, the statements "guaranteed flawless straight from the factory! With perfect fitment and evenly coated finish." are also false, as demonstrated by the wheels I received.
2. BAD PRODUCT - Avant Garde has serious QC issues. The flaws on my wheels were unacceptable. It is especially telling that Avant Garde would not send me replacement wheels and just sent me a refund instead. Doesn't inspire much confidence in the product, does it?
I was please with the support I received from Bobby and Sean, but I believe the information regarding the product I was provided was false and the product itself was of poor quality. For these reasons, I will not be working with PYSpeed or Avant Garde in the future.
i also recently bought them from Bobby/Sean @ pyspeed , they are stored away until it gets a bit colder, so i cant post pics.. but upon my delivery check, i did not see any issues with the paint finish ..it looked pretty nice to me.