E90 M3 best suspension setup with EDC?

PAM3Guy wrote

That $8,900+ price is for the R3 kit, not the Roadsport. The R3 is for serious track folks...

For comparison clarity, Nitron's lower cost, basic "Roadsport" version kit does not provide EDC functionality; therefore, not an equivalent comparison to B16 Dampronic kit [ie price].
Most similar functional product comparison is Nitron elec-TRON version; seemingly at an ~+36% price premium...sooo plainly, depends on ones objectives, use case, price point etc.

Thumbie wrote

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smokinjoe64 wrote

For comparison clarity, Nitron's lower cost, basic "Roadsport" version kit does not provide EDC functionality; therefore, not an equivalent price comparison to B16 Dampronic kit.
Most similar functional product comparison is Nitron elec-TRON version; seemingly at an ~+36% price premium

- Jus say'in -> a matter of choice

That’s not what the info says:

https://europeanautosource.com/products/nitron-elec-tron-roadsport-coilover-suspension-kit-bmw-e9x-m3?variant=52831452758338&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Google+Shopping&currency=USD&country=US&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=23583237512&gclid=Cj0KCQjwrs7RBhDuARIsAIVfBD1QssZo_9QNs2LP4Mj_0M2RAXTlm-Rt4Spvgtfw1Xn8pdFw5OvNwToaAjzREALw_wcB


“Nitron OEM EDC Integration

elec-TRON Roadsport dampers are a direct bolt-in upgrade, seamlessly integrating into your OEM computer, offering advanced damping control over stock. All of the factory features function as intended, just with some trick new hardware underneath the car.
Features

• Height adjustable (F/R: 10-35mm)
• Uses OEM Top Mounts
• No manual damping adjustments. Fully integrated with Factory EDC control
• Coil Springs Included”

smokinjoe64 wrote

For comparison clarity, Nitron's lower cost, basic "Roadsport" version kit does not provide EDC functionality; therefore, not an equivalent comparison to B16 Dampronic kit [ie price].
Most similar functional product comparison is Nitron elec-TRON version; seemingly at an ~+36% price premium...sooo plainly, depends on ones objectives, use case, price point etc.

- Jus say'in -> a matter of choice

PAM3Guy wrote

That’s not what the info says:

Apparently, previous post not fully understood/discerned.
Distinct difference highlighted & noted...

smokinjoe64 wrote

Apparently, previous post not fully understood/discerned.
Distinct difference highlighted & noted...

I think you missed what I meant, and what eas posted.

In the earlier post ( E90 M3 best suspension setup with EDC? [#15] from eas comparing the nitron kit to the B16 damptronic kit, eas linked to the the elec-TRON roadsport edc kit, NOT the basic (non EDC) roadsport kit. And that kit was listed for $4955, so if we’re comparing apples to apples, it’s only a $1400 difference, not a $5-6,000 difference. That’s what I was referring to.

PAM3Guy wrote

I think you missed what I meant, and what eas posted.

In the earlier post ( E90 M3 best suspension setup with EDC? [#15] from eas comparing the nitron kit to the B16 damptronic kit, eas linked to the the elec-TRON roadsport edc kit, NOT the basic (non EDC) roadsport kit. And that kit was listed for $4955, so if we’re comparing apples to apples, it’s only a $1400 difference, not a $5-6,000 difference. That’s what I was referring to.

Actually both understood and understand all points completely...nuff said

I run the B16 non EDC coilovers and they are about perfect for a street car. (even though I track my car) Set the height you want and use EDC. The car rides plush with reduced roll even on the soft settings.

PAM3Guy wrote

I think you missed what I meant, and what eas posted.

In the earlier post ( E90 M3 best suspension setup with EDC? [#15] from eas comparing the nitron kit to the B16 damptronic kit, eas linked to the the elec-TRON roadsport edc kit, NOT the basic (non EDC) roadsport kit. And that kit was listed for $4955, so if we’re comparing apples to apples, it’s only a $1400 difference, not a $5-6,000 difference. That’s what I was referring to.

The elec-TRON Roadsport is all that is being discussed, you're 100% correct.

Nitron's NTR R3 is by no means a street suspension, the kit wouldn't even be brought up in a street discussion as its intended for Motorsport.

I'm at 99k miles and am having B6 EDCs plus Eibach Pros put on this week. I also added the Dinan supp ride quality kit. Will let you know how it is. My current stock (non-ZCP) suspension is in fairly decent shape, but it's obviously time.

Has anyone considered coding in the ZCP EDC modes on a non-ZCP car that ends up being lowered to about ZCP height (which is what I understand the combo above is most likely to achieve)? Other than the adaptive sport mode, is there any real benefit?

VtecforV8 wrote

I'm at 99k miles and am having B6 EDCs plus Eibach Pros put on this week. I also added the Dinan supp ride quality kit. Will let you know how it is. My current stock (non-ZCP) suspension is in fairly decent shape, but it's obviously time.

Has anyone considered coding in the ZCP EDC modes on a non-ZCP car that ends up being lowered to about ZCP height (which is what I understand the combo above is most likely to achieve)? Other than the adaptive sport mode, is there any real benefit?

Not sure what year your car is, but pre 2011 models cannot take the ZCP edc code, unless you get a newer EDC module.

Also, you won't notice any difference, despite what anyone says.

I think you wasted a bunch of money getting B6's, plus springs, and that Dinan kit when you could've just gotten the B16 damptronic.

I was fine with swift Spec R on stock EDC dampers for a street car.

BigTee wrote

Not sure what year your car is, but pre 2011 models cannot take the ZCP edc code, unless you get a newer EDC module.

Also, you won't notice any difference, despite what anyone says.

I think you wasted a bunch of money getting B6's, plus springs, and that Dinan kit when you could've just gotten the B16 damptronic.

How is the B16 damptronic kit on the street? Especially crappy b-roads?

PAM3Guy wrote

How is the B16 damptronic kit on the street? Especially crappy b-roads?

If its anything like what I have now, soft is soft. I run on 3 clicks front and 4 clicks rear and it is damn near exact as NORMAL mode in EDC.

There are a few reviews of the damptronic kit out there and while I understand its hard to believe what people say as feelings are subjective, I am now a firm believer in Bilstein.

I skipped out on the damptronics because I want to make independent changes front and rear. This is to find the right balance on track. Had i only a street car, I would've gotten the damptronics, no questions asked. Its a one stop shop. Don't have to worry about travel issues, or bumpstop length, or anything. Assemble as they come and go. They are tuned for aggressive rates (performance benefit) and still ride like stock. No way would I trade that for some soft lowering springs that ride on the bumpstops.

https://www.evolveautomotive.co.uk/products/evolve-damptronic-shock-absorbers-bmw-3-series-e90-e92-e93-m3?_pos=1&_psq=Damptronic+ev&_ss=e&_v=1.0

What if i buy these these with H&R lowering springs? Thoughts? I daily drive my car I don’t need track setup advice 😓

He's back!!!

lol. But in all seriousness, those are 100% the dampers I would get if I wasn't going to track the car. Even then, I'd still get them, but they weren't out yet when I upgraded to Ohlins. They should go fine with H&R springs if you want to lower the car that much. I see evolve has their own springs now that lower slightly less than H&R.

It's all up to your preference at that point.

lol yeah I’ve been reading and i realized I am nowhere nearly as knowledgeable on these things as yall😓 I am barely understanding half of this stuff lol I will do some research

tom @ eas wrote

I'd opt for the Nitron Roadsport over the B16s. The Roadsports feel fantastic on the street and are fully compatible with EDC as well as fully supported in the US.

If you've ever had to make a Bilstein claim, you'll know what I mean.



Nitron elec-TRON Roadsport Coilover Suspension Kit - BMW E9X M3
https://europeanautosource.com/products/nitron-elec-tron-roadsport-coilover-suspension-kit-bmw-e9x-m3

These are great for daily and spirited canyon runs/light track use.

Exactly what I plan to go with but not sure if I will or should add the camber plates. No tracks around to enjoy where I live. Definitely will refresh the front end and rear though.

https://www.turnermotorsport.com/p-4510733-b12-pro-kit-front-and-rear-front-lowered-height-20mm-up-to-1060kg-axle-load-rear-lowered-height-15mm-up-to-1190kg-axle-load-with-electronic-suspension-bmw-m3-20/?gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=22079985246&gbraid=0AAAAAD_rX5YmkpnolVRD0OaMxlTU4EZL8&gclid=CjwKCAjwmJjSBhB-EiwAkZgxi-LbLi4H8RjLbAToBlUWXg97qePuGGd4bClB9ZUorZY6OWd1e88QSxoCPewQAvD_BwE

I know I just sent a link to another kit, but this kit is the same price and comes with coils. Which is better tho

^ that is a solid option. I think the only thing you need to worry about is how much you want to lower the car. I'd get whatever springs give you that look. (and none of them will be exact, and most give you a range not a single number)

Suspension is indeed complicated, but there are kits out there that keep it simple.

My understanding is that the B12 is a combo of the B8 and the eibach pro kit springs. I'd read on these forums that the B8s can be a bit harsh on the road (at least, at times) so I went with B6 EDC and pro kits. (From what I've read the eibach drop is not enough to require going w/ a shorter shock like the B8, plus i got the Dinan kit that provides additional travel room.) Before the Dinan add-on, which wsa just for peace of mind, the price for B6+springs was basically identical to the B12 set before the memorial day deal I happened to get. (The car, which used to be dual-duty for me, has become my daily so I decided to err on the side of caution.) After a couple days back in the car, I like the set up quite a bit, at least compared to a near-100k mile stock suspension. I pushed it fairly hard on a short back road stretch today and while there may be a tad bit of initial roll, it does lock in and inspire confidence once loaded up. Soaks up small bumps better than before, too, though anything that was harsh before is still somewhat harsh, but the edges have been softened a bit.

BimmerRob08 wrote

Exactly what I plan to go with but not sure if I will or should add the camber plates. No tracks around to enjoy where I live. Definitely will refresh the front end and rear though.

Your alignment guy and tires will love you if you do.

PAM3Guy wrote

How is the B16 damptronic kit on the street? Especially crappy b-roads?

BigTee wrote

There are a few reviews of the damptronic kit out there and while I understand its hard to believe what people say as feelings are subjective, I am now a firm believer in Bilstein.

I skipped out on the damptronics because I want to make independent changes front and rear. This is to find the right balance on track. Had i only a street car, I would've gotten the damptronics, no questions asked. It's a one stop shop. Don't have to worry about travel issues, or bumpstop length, or anything. Assemble as they come and go. They are tuned for aggressive rates (performance benefit) and still ride like stock. No way would I trade that for some soft lowering springs that ride on the bumpstops.

Concur with sentiments and descriptions from BigTee regarding Bilstein/options.Simply said, jus a matter of choice