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G MONEY wrote
Lol. Not to sure if your spending 120-130 grand your really sweating gas prices. Anything is possible I guess
for sure... but theres a lot of people spending 120 grand with barely 1k in savings
Humdizzle wrote
maybe the list will thin out a bit with high interest rates and the cost of gas ? alot can change in someones life in a year too (kids, job, etc). i could see the list thinning out a bit as time goes on. but who knows
Doubt it.

Even if people had lost interest due to long waits or other financial priorities will stay on the list just because you can literally flip the car for probably double the MSRP.

There are rumors that production might start in summer (august) which means those allocated for a '23 MY could still be getting their cars into next spring/summer of 2023. I am due for a 1st MY and now i don't even know if i'll get the car this fall. I kinda don't want to take delivery in the middle of winter because it makes no sense but then again when my number is called, i don't want to pass it for a postpone date of spring '23 because we don't know what will happen from now til then. So if i have to take delivery when it's snowing, so be it. I want this car. Because it's everything i've dreamt of.

An NA powerhouse that sounds like a ferrari. I couldn't afford a 458 back then. Although i could get a used one now but i rather get something even better (yes the LT6 is better than the engine in the 458), and i'll have a fresh warranty.

This will be the very first time a corvette will be ultra rare lol.

Gotta love GM!
BGM-M3COMP wrote
Humdizzle wrote
maybe the list will thin out a bit with high interest rates and the cost of gas ? alot can change in someones life in a year too (kids, job, etc). i could see the list thinning out a bit as time goes on. but who knows
Doubt it.

Even if people had lost interest due to long waits or other financial priorities will stay on the list just because you can literally flip the car for probably double the MSRP.

There are rumors that production might start in summer (august) which means those allocated for a '23 MY could still be getting their cars into next spring/summer of 2023. I am due for a 1st MY and now i don't even know if i'll get the car this fall. I kinda don't want to take delivery in the middle of winter because it makes no sense but then again when my number is called, i don't want to pass it for a postpone date of spring '23 because we don't know what will happen from now til then. So if i have to take delivery when it's snowing, so be it. I want this car. Because it's everything i've dreamt of.

An NA powerhouse that sounds like a ferrari. I couldn't afford a 458 back then. Although i could get a used one now but i rather get something even better (yes the LT6 is better than the engine in the 458), and i'll have a fresh warranty.

This will be the very first time a corvette will be ultra rare lol.

Gotta love GM!
I bought my 458 used. Happy I did. 488 used in the future:-) Hopefully 🙏.
G MONEY wrote
I bought my 458 used. Happy I did. 488 used in the future:-) Hopefully 🙏.
If the C8Z wasn't the car i wanted it to be, i actually would be in the market for a used 458.

I'm glad GM gave us their version of it. I don't really want any forced induction on my next vette.
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I've not liked Corvettes in over a decade, but this style is pretty darn sick. If I had enough money to buy two nice cars, I'd strongly consider this. The price range is crazy, though. Starting at $60k and maxing out at $120k, that's too many options!
NullViking wrote
The price range is crazy, though. Starting at $60k and maxing out at $120k, that's too many options!
I would disagree with this. The more options cars like these have the better as it allows people to make them their own. Which is no different then how Porsche treats their line up. It gives a lower starting price for individuals who don't want much but gives plenty of space for others who want more.
Humdizzle wrote
Order books for Z06 open in end of March but GM hasnt released product test vehicles internally yet - just prototypes that are on display.

So GM will have 44K build capacity for 2023 but it looks like they are still working through waiting list on the base model cars.

I'm going to guess it'll be 2024 before you can order the Z06 at MSRP with a reasonable build time.
VChenz wrote
Order books for Z06 open in end of March but GM hasnt released product test vehicles internally yet - just prototypes that are on display.

So GM will have 44K build capacity for 2023 but it looks like they are still working through waiting list on the base model cars.

I'm going to guess it'll be 2024 before you can order the Z06 at MSRP with a reasonable build time.
10%+ inflation by the end of the year might lead to some cancellations.
NullViking wrote
. Starting at $60k and maxing out at $120k, that's too many options!
LOL, take a look at Porsche !
mikado463 wrote
LOL, take a look at Porsche !
And used 2020 stingrays with even a 2LT are still going for 100k lol

It's nuts.

Corvettes are finally rare now! :D
strohw wrote
I would disagree with this. The more options cars like these have the better as it allows people to make them their own. Which is no different then how Porsche treats their line up. It gives a lower starting price for individuals who don't want much but gives plenty of space for others who want more.
Agreed.

An expanded option list could help bring the MSRP on the z06 down a bit.

Because not many buy stripper z06's. Or stripper corvettes in general. A lot of owners load them up with options to "make it their own", so GM could profit off that and give others who do buy stripper cars a chance to own an amazing piece of engineering right at MSRP.

I'm getting a stripper z06 btw lol. All i want is the front lift. I don't need the Z07 package with all that aero, even though it looks amazing. I don't need that aero slowing me down lol
BGM-M3COMP wrote
strohw wrote
I would disagree with this. The more options cars like these have the better as it allows people to make them their own. Which is no different then how Porsche treats their line up. It gives a lower starting price for individuals who don't want much but gives plenty of space for others who want more.
Agreed.

An expanded option list could help bring the MSRP on the z06 down a bit.

Because not many buy stripper z06's. Or stripper corvettes in general. A lot of owners load them up with options to "make it their own", so GM could profit off that and give others who do buy stripper cars a chance to own an amazing piece of engineering right at MSRP.

I'm getting a stripper z06 btw lol. All i want is the front lift. I don't need the Z07 package with all that aero, even though it looks amazing. I don't need that aero slowing me down lol
Meh. Lol. I want every option other than the wheels. They will be changed out right away for aftermarket anyway. Again, if I hit the lotto and get one
G MONEY wrote
Meh. Lol. I want every option other than the wheels. They will be changed out right away for aftermarket anyway. Again, if I hit the lotto and get one
A fully loaded Z06 is expected to cost around 140-150 lol. Good luck. That's base ZR1 pricing.

The car looks fucking incredible stock. I do agree on the wheels. Although not the styling. But the offsets. GM always put shitty ass offsets on their corvettes. That's one of the first mods i did to my C7Z. Aftermarket wheels but most importantly, better offsets. Totally changed the look of the car.

I'll probably do the same again with the C8Z. But i need that front end lift. That's a game changer.
BGM-M3COMP wrote
G MONEY wrote
Meh. Lol. I want every option other than the wheels. They will be changed out right away for aftermarket anyway. Again, if I hit the lotto and get one
A fully loaded Z06 is expected to cost around 140-150 lol. Good luck. That's base ZR1 pricing.

The car looks fucking incredible stock. I do agree on the wheels. Although not the styling. But the offsets. GM always put shitty ass offsets on their corvettes. That's one of the first mods i did to my C7Z. Aftermarket wheels but most importantly, better offsets. Totally changed the look of the car.

I'll probably do the same again with the C8Z. But i need that front end lift. That's a game changer.
Yolo. Go big or go home:-)
It doesn’t look that nice, unfortunately. That one is lowered (which of course any owner can do) and they captured its best angle. There are a lot of angles where it still looks awkward
Darth One wrote
It doesn’t look that nice, unfortunately. That one is lowered (which of course any owner can do) and they captured its best angle. There are a lot of angles where it still looks awkward
As the saying goes, "beauty is in the eye of the beholder." It's the reason why BMW can still sell cars with glaringly, massive beaver tooth style grills. Which is uglier an M4 or a C8 Z06? See how it's subjective?
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DrFerry wrote
As the saying goes, "beauty is in the eye of the beholder." It's the reason why BMW can still sell cars with glaringly, massive beaver tooth style grills. Which is uglier an M4 or a C8 Z06? See how it's subjective?
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Nevermind the fact that the C8Z looks like a straight up supercar. And neither the M3 nor the M4 looks anything remotely close to super.

As great as the M cars are, they're just top of the line economy cars of their respectable series.
DrFerry wrote
Darth One wrote
It doesn't look that nice, unfortunately. That one is lowered (which of course any owner can do) and they captured its best angle. There are a lot of angles where it still looks awkward
As the saying goes, "beauty is in the eye of the beholder." It's the reason why BMW can still sell cars with glaringly, massive beaver tooth style grills. Which is uglier an M4 or a C8 Z06? See how it's subjective?
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Not at all my point. Maybe I shouldn't have said "it doesn't look that nice" from other angles because that implies subjectivity.

What I'm trying to say is, it actually, objectively, doesn't look like that from different angles. And that particular angle, specifically, cherry-picks a view that completely hides the disproportionality that my eye sees.

This is an unfair comparison because it's my quick, unstaged, phone cam shot in the hands of an amateur. But hopefully it can illustrate how different the side and rear quarter look from another angle.

But bottom line, this is why we need to see cars in the metal before forming an opinion.
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gonzo wrote
The engine/sound is just the icing on the cake to go along with the supercar looks.

Fuck i can't wait to get mine.