Suspension poll

OC ///M · 12-03-2007, 12:12 AM

I was curious as to what the masses by and large plan on doing with the suspension...

Option A: I don't have (am not getting) EDC and plan on leaving it stock...

Option B: I don't have (am not getting) EDC and plan on modifying w/ coilovers etc...

Option C: I have (am getting) EDC and plan on leaving it stock...

Option D: I have (am getting) EDC and plan on modifying w/sport springs...

ChrisFastM3 · 01-23-2008, 03:57 PM

Words of advise..............

On my current e46 m3, I put lowering springs & it sucked. My suspension went to hell shortly after, the handling was only a little better, & ride comfort went down the drain. I then put on pss9 coilovers & was in LOVE all over again with the car: much better handling, adjustable, and the perfect drop.

So long story short, don't go with springs

ROTORHEAD77 · 01-28-2008, 06:22 AM

We will see what the stock EDC feels like. I am pretty sure that this track tuned suspension should be great.

I ran TEIN RA (Full race) coil-overs on my WRX back in the day, and everyday driving went into the Thomas Crapper. It was nice over 80, but during normal operation, it was stiff like you wouldn't believe.

If this car is too plush, I may consider increasing the spring rate.

chicagobimmerboy · 02-20-2008, 08:46 PM

If anyone is planning on doing any track time, or doing heavy modifications to their cars I'd make upgrades. Apparently Evosport is working on a suspension that works in conjucntion with EDC, so lets hope the same for tha M3

OC ///M · 02-21-2008, 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chicagobimmerboy

...Apparently Evosport is working on a suspension that works in conjucntion with EDC...

Wow, that would be pretty incredible. Keep us posted.

K3N R3D · 02-24-2008, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OC kid

Wow, that would be pretty incredible. Keep us posted.

+1

Hammer · 02-24-2008, 01:49 PM

i think, we had this topic already? didnt we?

!Xoible · 02-24-2008, 01:56 PM

this might be a $3k mod if it's gonna live with EDC. springs alone is definitely not an option

OC ///M · 02-24-2008, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammer

i think, we had this topic already? didnt we?

I'm not sure what you mean. The topic of this thread is "suspension decisions". I posted this back in the beginning of December, before you were a member here.

!Xoible · 02-24-2008, 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OC kid

I'm not sure what you mean. The topic of this thread is "suspension decisions". I posted this thread back in the beginning of December, before you were a member here.

did you just edit your post?! i thought i read something similar a few minutes ago

OC ///M · 02-24-2008, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by mantis

springs alone is definitely not an option

How so? BMW has designed the M3 with extra gap space in the wheel well to allow for snow chains. For me, stock height is not an option. Until manufacturers come up with something, I'll be losing 1" up front & .6" rear w the H&R's. With such a small drop, the detrimental effects on the advanced stock shocks should be pretty negligible.

edit: yes, edited.

!Xoible · 02-24-2008, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OC kid

How so? BMW has designed the M3 with extra gap space in the wheel well to allow for snow chains. For me, stock height is not an option. Until manufacturers come up with something, I'll be losing 1" up front & .6" rear w the H&R's. With such a small drop, the detrimental effects on the advanced stock shocks should be pretty negligible.

edit: yes, edited.

based on my experience with 335 when you first put springs in it feels just great, just like stock. a few months later you notice it becomes super bouncy and very annoying. if you drive on socal freeways u feel ur chassis is gonna blow up all the time. theyre just horrible.
i only knew the difference when i switched back to coilovers, well besides the complaints about ride quality from my passengers.

i'd rather stay stock than have that again.

OC ///M · 02-24-2008, 03:50 PM

I

what you're saying & I've seen your story before. It kinda sounds more like you were driving around in Baghdad the way you tell it.

If you don't have enough spring to allow for travel within the shock, you are sacrificing dampening benefits and potentially contributing to premature wear. I've been lowering cars for almost 20 years, so I'm gonna go with my gut & experience on this one. It's easy enough to switch 'em back to stocks if I didn't like or had to for suspension warranty work.

!Xoible · 02-24-2008, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OC kid

I

what you're saying & I've seen your story before. It kinda sounds more like you were driving around in Baghdad the way you tell it.

If you don't have enough spring to allow for travel within the shock, you are sacrificing dampening benefits and potentially contributing to premature wear. I've been lowering cars for almost 20 years, so I'm gonna go with my gut & experience on this one. It's easy enough to switch 'em back to stocks if I didn't like or had to for suspension warranty work.

wouldnt that blow ur stock shocks tho?

for 20 years?!!! i thought you were my age

OC ///M · 02-24-2008, 06:18 PM

^ eventually, but then I'll be just like this guy...he's still having fun.

I'm old bro.

!Xoible · 02-24-2008, 09:01 PM

nice

BCMPOWER · 02-24-2008, 11:01 PM

I have ordered EDC, however my current car has tein flex coilovers with EDFC and I love them. So i am hoping bilstein comes out with a coilover that incorporates the EDC function.

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12-03-2007, 12:12 AM	#1
OC ///M Lieutenant Colonel Drives: SSII e92 M3 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: So Cal Posts: 1,713 iTrader: (0)	Suspension poll I was curious as to what the masses by and large plan on doing with the suspension... Option A: I don't have (am not getting) EDC and plan on leaving it stock... Option B: I don't have (am not getting) EDC and plan on modifying w/ coilovers etc... Option C: I have (am getting) EDC and plan on leaving it stock... Option D: I have (am getting) EDC and plan on modifying w/sport springs... __________________ OC ///M 2011 ZCP \| ED + PCD \| Akra Evo \| Brembo 380mm \| ESS Tuning Software \| Evosport Pulley \| Molded OEM Spoiler & Splitters \|
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02-24-2008, 03:50 PM	#13
OC ///M Lieutenant Colonel Drives: SSII e92 M3 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: So Cal Posts: 1,713 iTrader: (0)	I what you're saying & I've seen your story before. It kinda sounds more like you were driving around in Baghdad the way you tell it. If you don't have enough spring to allow for travel within the shock, you are sacrificing dampening benefits and potentially contributing to premature wear. I've been lowering cars for almost 20 years, so I'm gonna go with my gut & experience on this one. It's easy enough to switch 'em back to stocks if I didn't like or had to for suspension warranty work. __________________ OC ///M 2011 ZCP \| ED + PCD \| Akra Evo \| Brembo 380mm \| ESS Tuning Software \| Evosport Pulley \| Molded OEM Spoiler & Splitters \|

02-24-2008, 06:18 PM	#15
OC ///M Lieutenant Colonel Drives: SSII e92 M3 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: So Cal Posts: 1,713 iTrader: (0)	^ eventually, but then I'll be just like this guy...he's still having fun. I'm old bro. __________________ OC ///M 2011 ZCP \| ED + PCD \| Akra Evo \| Brembo 380mm \| ESS Tuning Software \| Evosport Pulley \| Molded OEM Spoiler & Splitters \|

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01-23-2008, 03:57 PM	#2
ChrisFastM3 Captain Drives: E46 M3 vert w/ LOTS of mods Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 676 iTrader: (0)	Words of advise.............. On my current e46 m3, I put lowering springs & it sucked. My suspension went to hell shortly after, the handling was only a little better, & ride comfort went down the drain. I then put on pss9 coilovers & was in LOVE all over again with the car: much better handling, adjustable, and the perfect drop. So long story short, don't go with springs

01-28-2008, 06:22 AM	#3
ROTORHEAD77 DUSTOFF: ALL BALLS, NO GUNS!!! Drives: '09 E90 M3 SG DCT '04 JDM FIT Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Mittel Franken Posts: 110 iTrader: (0)	We will see what the stock EDC feels like. I am pretty sure that this track tuned suspension should be great. I ran TEIN RA (Full race) coil-overs on my WRX back in the day, and everyday driving went into the Thomas Crapper. It was nice over 80, but during normal operation, it was stiff like you wouldn't believe. If this car is too plush, I may consider increasing the spring rate.

02-20-2008, 08:46 PM	#4
chicagobimmerboy First Lieutenant Drives: Un esotico Italiano ;) Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Chicago suburbs Posts: 363 iTrader: (0)	If anyone is planning on doing any track time, or doing heavy modifications to their cars I'd make upgrades. Apparently Evosport is working on a suspension that works in conjucntion with EDC, so lets hope the same for tha M3

02-24-2008, 01:49 PM	#7
Hammer Lieutenant Drives: BMW Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Germany, Cologne Posts: 421 iTrader: (0)	i think, we had this topic already? didnt we?

02-24-2008, 01:56 PM	#8
!Xoible Banned Drives: .... Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: . Posts: 46,045 iTrader: (4) Garage List 2008 M3 [3.50] 2007 335i [4.50] 2008 528i [4.00] 2006 Infiniti - G35 ... [4.00]	this might be a $3k mod if it's gonna live with EDC. springs alone is definitely not an option

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!Xoible Banned Drives: .... Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: . Posts: 46,045 iTrader: (4) Garage List 2008 M3 [3.50] 2007 335i [4.50] 2008 528i [4.00] 2006 Infiniti - G35 ... [4.00]	nice

02-24-2008, 11:01 PM	#17
BCMPOWER Captain Drives: 08 Silverstone II M3 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Silver Spring MD Posts: 629 iTrader: (0)	I have ordered EDC, however my current car has tein flex coilovers with EDFC and I love them. So i am hoping bilstein comes out with a coilover that incorporates the EDC function.