Grade my M3 repair *Lots of Pics*

cambit · 12-13-2013, 09:51 PM

Late November 2013, I was involved in a front collision on my M3. Have since got the car back, but I wanted the internetz opinion on the repair. Anyone know how to read and interpret a Car-o-liner report?

Please grade this repair! Full album can be reached here:

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Alignment / Car-o-Liner report / Final Bill

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Ghetto2315 · 12-13-2013, 10:02 PM

Not too fond of the gap between the hood, headlight and kidney grille. B-

bimmerheater · 12-13-2013, 10:10 PM

did this repair cost $15k out of your own pocket? ouch..

///mawana · 12-13-2013, 10:12 PM

Whoever did the work, if asking for payment, should be ashamed - I would take it back, the alignment of the front grille, hood and side panel is off and how their QC passed this and hope to get paid is beyond me.

Did you use a BMW approved shop?

Chriskm3 · 12-13-2013, 10:39 PM

It doesn't look that bad other than the repair cost. The front grill Is part of the plastic bumper which is very soft so room for allotment still exists

positiveions · 12-13-2013, 10:50 PM

I mean doesn't look that bad

Blindside_137 · 12-13-2013, 11:09 PM

Not good as new that's for sure. Paint match seems off too on the bumper. I'd give it a B.

Yvette · 12-13-2013, 11:23 PM

15k repair bill??
and I thought 5k repair on a 08 M3 was bad enough to make me walk away lol
anyways, repair looks good to me.

TrevorM3 · 12-14-2013, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Blindside_137

Not good as new that's for sure. Paint match seems off too on the bumper. I'd give it a B.

Bumpers always mismatch FYI. Unless it's straight black.

Whens the last time you looked at that rear bumper in your signature?

Some of the alignments look a little off in the front, could be the hood isn't closed, camera angle.. We will never know... If it looks good to you and you are happy this is what matters.

rawdenim · 12-14-2013, 09:40 AM

I am paying $14,000 for a brand new S65 engine, how is this repair also that price...

cambit · 12-14-2013, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by bimmerheater

did this repair cost $15k out of your own pocket? ouch..

no, this was paid out through insurance, but for some reason they invoiced it as customer paid. I did not pay everything with my own pocket. My deductible was $500

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Originally Posted by mawana

Whoever did the work, if asking for payment, should be ashamed - I would take it back, the alignment of the front grille, hood and side panel is off and how their QC passed this and hope to get paid is beyond me.

Did you use a BMW approved shop?

This was not a certified BMW collision center, it was a body shop recommended by the BMW dealer. They claimed they used all OEM parts and BMW OEM paint.

Thanks for all the feedback so far. When I picked up the car, I pointed out the gaps between the bumper/grill, hood, and fenders. But I've been known to be very OCD on stupid minor stuff and so wanted other opinions before I made them adjust it. They offer a life-time warranty on their work so I figure I'll come back later to fix it if needed.

Other thing I was surprised was they outsourced the wheel alignment to a non-dealer shop. This really bothered me because when I originally dropped the car off, they said any mechanical work would be done at the dealership.

Other thing that surprised me was when they said they didn't need to replace the fender rail support. I was under the impression that in event of structural damage, they will pull the piece back, section it off, and weld the new part on. THe response I got from the body shop was they just pulled it back and "reinforced" it whatever that means.

Here's a pic of what i'm talking about:

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Hujan · 12-14-2013, 11:17 AM

I think if you just posted photos of the car without any mention of a post-accident repair, all of the people complaining about the quality of the job would probably have said, "Nice car!"

TrevorM3 · 12-14-2013, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by mydenimisraw

I am paying $14,000 for a brand new S65 engine, how is this repair also that price...

His entire front end got whacked, parts and labor add up...jeez this isnt a corolla.

And you are absolutely right, most wouldnt even have known is was in an accident. Lol

Talk2meg00se · 12-14-2013, 06:35 PM

they should be able to fix the gap issue easily. had the bumper replace on mine, and it presented similar problems. you just have to point out to the techs and they can adjust.

tinman831 · 12-14-2013, 06:48 PM

If the pictures were included in an ad you have to question whether or not it was in an accident. Misaligned body panels are a good indication that it's been bumped and or repaired. OP take the car back and see if they can line those panels up better. If it were me, that would drive me crazy.

Ezio · 12-14-2013, 06:51 PM

the job isnt BAD. but its not good enough for me personally. car is way to nice to not be somewhat perfect

bing240sx · 12-14-2013, 07:05 PM

a BMW dealer referring you to a non-certified shop in a major metro-area is silliness...

repair looks good enough and $14k isn't totally unreasonable.

W Cole · 12-14-2013, 07:06 PM

Panel gaps are easy to fix. Make them redo it or do it yourself. There are cars from the factory that are much much worse than this.

I would be more concerned with orange peel, color match, drips, fisheyes, dust, etc.

bunnn · 12-14-2013, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by W Cole

Panel gaps are easy to fix. Make them redo it or do it yourself. There are cars from the factory that are much much worse than this.

This. Have you guys seen some of the cars that come from factory? I was disgusted with the way I got my m3, I had to pay a bodyshop to re-align everything to my standard.

Thik · 12-15-2013, 09:47 AM

The panel gaps are not straight. I would get the bodyshop to re-align the panels.

The dealership probably gets a fee for referring you to that bodyshop. There's really no reason not to take your BMW to a BMW factory approved bodyshop.

Factory approved shops will have all the proper tools, computers and most importantly, the experience of fixing BMW's. A mom and pop body shop may touch only a handful of BMWs' all year.

///M Power-Belgium · 12-15-2013, 10:42 AM

For me personal and for $14,200 USD these gaps are looking nok

The color difference looks normal because i see it also on my car and had never a body repaint,reason for the color difference is because the ///M3 has different body materials like plastic(front spoiler,fenders),aliminium (hood),doors(metal)
Actualy i see 3 different colors on my SSII ,and i have seen a new AW it was even worse !

Someone? · 12-15-2013, 10:54 AM

NEVER EVER get repairs done by a Non BMW certified repair shop! My Lord son, theres only 1 in Michigan and that would be the only place i would go.
I beat the guy who recommended that body shop was getting some kinda kick back, ive never heard of a BMW dealer not insisting on the customer using a BMW Cert. shop.

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12-13-2013, 09:51 PM	#1
cambit Private First Class 11 Rep 155 Posts Drives: 2013 BMW M3 COUPE Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: San Francisco, CA iTrader: (1)	Grade my M3 repair Lots of Pics Late November 2013, I was involved in a front collision on my M3. Have since got the car back, but I wanted the internetz opinion on the repair. Anyone know how to read and interpret a Car-o-liner report? Please grade this repair! Full album can be reached here: View post on imgur.com Before View post on imgur.com View post on imgur.com View post on imgur.com View post on imgur.com View post on imgur.com During View post on imgur.com View post on imgur.com After View post on imgur.com View post on imgur.com View post on imgur.com View post on imgur.com View post on imgur.com View post on imgur.com View post on imgur.com View post on imgur.com View post on imgur.com View post on imgur.com View post on imgur.com View post on imgur.com View post on imgur.com View post on imgur.com View post on imgur.com View post on imgur.com View post on imgur.com View post on imgur.com View post on imgur.com View post on imgur.com Alignment / Car-o-Liner report / Final Bill View post on imgur.com View post on imgur.com View post on imgur.com View post on imgur.com View post on imgur.com View post on imgur.com View post on imgur.com
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12-13-2013, 10:02 PM	#2
Ghetto2315 Colonel 831 Rep 2,352 Posts Drives: 16' BMW i8 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: The REAL Jersey Shore iTrader: (1) Garage List 2001 BMW M3 E46 CON ... [9.50] 2016 BMW i8 [10.00] 2003 JEEP GRAND CHE ... [0.00] 2000 540i SPORT E39 [10.00] 2007 TOYOTA TACOMA ... [0.00]	Not too fond of the gap between the hood, headlight and kidney grille. B-
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12-13-2013, 10:10 PM	#3
bimmerheater Private 8 Rep 50 Posts Drives: e46 330i zhp Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: SoCal iTrader: (0)	did this repair cost $15k out of your own pocket? ouch..
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12-13-2013, 10:12 PM	#4
///mawana Lieutenant 80 Rep 564 Posts Drives: e90 M3 Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Prosper, TX iTrader: (0)	Whoever did the work, if asking for payment, should be ashamed - I would take it back, the alignment of the front grille, hood and side panel is off and how their QC passed this and hope to get paid is beyond me. Did you use a BMW approved shop?
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12-13-2013, 10:39 PM	#5
Chriskm3 Colonel 59 Rep 2,186 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Toronto iTrader: (4)	It doesn't look that bad other than the repair cost. The front grill Is part of the plastic bumper which is very soft so room for allotment still exists __________________ Vf supercharger + tune/H&R coils/ Akra evolution exhaust/Volk te37/ Rs-3 tires/ Brembos /TIal BOV/ OSS blacked out headlights/LUX v3/Led taillights/ Challenge Front lip/ P3 vent gauge/ F10 m5 shift mob/Matte black front grills/ And a funky air fresher
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12-13-2013, 11:09 PM	#7
Blindside_137 Lieutenant General 6710 Rep 10,598 Posts Drives: 2011.75 SSII E90 M3 ZCP Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Raleigh, NC iTrader: (2)	Not good as new that's for sure. Paint match seems off too on the bumper. I'd give it a B.
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12-13-2013, 11:23 PM	#8
Yvette Major General 761 Rep 7,408 Posts Drives: M Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Vancouver iTrader: (19)	15k repair bill?? and I thought 5k repair on a 08 M3 was bad enough to make me walk away lol anyways, repair looks good to me.
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12-14-2013, 09:40 AM	#10
rawdenim Glorious Leader 34 Rep 304 Posts Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: New York City iTrader: (0)	I am paying $14,000 for a brand new S65 engine, how is this repair also that price...
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12-14-2013, 11:17 AM	#12
Hujan Brigadier General 569 Rep 3,742 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: . iTrader: (16)	I think if you just posted photos of the car without any mention of a post-accident repair, all of the people complaining about the quality of the job would probably have said, "Nice car!"
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12-14-2013, 06:35 PM	#14
Talk2meg00se Captain 103 Rep 660 Posts Drives: 2013 E92 M3 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (0)	they should be able to fix the gap issue easily. had the bumper replace on mine, and it presented similar problems. you just have to point out to the techs and they can adjust. __________________ TiAg \| ZCP \| DCT \| Euro MDM \| aFe filter \| MS Pulley \| Akra Slip-on \| MS Spacers \| 255/275 M4S \| H8 180s
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12-14-2013, 06:48 PM	#15
tinman831 Captain 20 Rep 816 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: DFW iTrader: (0)	If the pictures were included in an ad you have to question whether or not it was in an accident. Misaligned body panels are a good indication that it's been bumped and or repaired. OP take the car back and see if they can line those panels up better. If it were me, that would drive me crazy.
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12-14-2013, 06:51 PM	#16
Ezio Brigadier General 380 Rep 3,934 Posts Drives: 2023 Alfa Romeo, 2023 m240i Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: MI iTrader: (0)	the job isnt BAD. but its not good enough for me personally. car is way to nice to not be somewhat perfect
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12-14-2013, 07:05 PM	#17
bing240sx Captain 121 Rep 681 Posts Drives: F87 M2C /// E90 M3 ESS-VT2 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Canada iTrader: (2)	a BMW dealer referring you to a non-certified shop in a major metro-area is silliness... repair looks good enough and $14k isn't totally unreasonable. __________________ FACEBOOK GROUPS: Canadian BMW M-Cars /// Ontario Infiniti G & Nissan Z /// WEB: NYSPEED.com
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12-14-2013, 07:06 PM	#18
W Cole Major 145 Rep 1,130 Posts Drives: 2009 M3 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Newport Coast, CA iTrader: (5)	Panel gaps are easy to fix. Make them redo it or do it yourself. There are cars from the factory that are much much worse than this. I would be more concerned with orange peel, color match, drips, fisheyes, dust, etc.
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12-15-2013, 09:47 AM	#20
Thik First Lieutenant 141 Rep 371 Posts Drives: 2010 Space Grey E92 M3 6spd Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Toronto iTrader: (0)	The panel gaps are not straight. I would get the bodyshop to re-align the panels. The dealership probably gets a fee for referring you to that bodyshop. There's really no reason not to take your BMW to a BMW factory approved bodyshop. Factory approved shops will have all the proper tools, computers and most importantly, the experience of fixing BMW's. A mom and pop body shop may touch only a handful of BMWs' all year. __________________ Check out my YouTube channel chronicling all the driving fun in my E92 M3!
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12-15-2013, 10:42 AM	#21
///M Power-Belgium General 63387 Rep 24,678 Posts Drives: ///M3-E92-DCT Silverstone II Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Belgium iTrader: (0)	For me personal and for $14,200 USD these gaps are looking nok The color difference looks normal because i see it also on my car and had never a body repaint,reason for the color difference is because the ///M3 has different body materials like plastic(front spoiler,fenders),aliminium (hood),doors(metal) Actualy i see 3 different colors on my SSII ,and i have seen a new AW it was even worse ! __________________ "MAX VERSTAPPEN" IS THE 2021+2022+2023 F1 WORLD CHAMPION - #UnLeashTheLion BPM DEV-Tune & DCT Software-Tune & Servotronic & coding ///Alpine HID Angeleyes ///Oem.exhaust mod.
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Someone? Perception is King 131 Rep 1,703 Posts Drives: M4 Join Date: May 2013 Location: Michigan iTrader: (8)	NEVER EVER get repairs done by a Non BMW certified repair shop! My Lord son, theres only 1 in Michigan and that would be the only place i would go. I beat the guy who recommended that body shop was getting some kinda kick back, ive never heard of a BMW dealer not insisting on the customer using a BMW Cert. shop. __________________ Perception and Reality are Two totally different Things.
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