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MidwestBimmerFan · 05-30-2009, 07:54 PM

Has anyone had any experience with these tires. If so how did you like there performance and ride/noise quality? I'm interested in getting a set because I'm at 9,000 miles and my rears are almost done. they have a much better price compared to PS2's but I'm worried that they might not compare to the PS's in performance and ride quality.

hl0m4n · 05-30-2009, 08:18 PM

they are fantastic tires and for those who have them they will say the same. if you read some recent tire test and reviews you will see that the vreds perform equal to or outperform the ps2 depending on the review; but more importantly what i am trying to say is that they are up there.

they are a great bargain tire from a growing dutch tire company.

MidwestBimmerFan · 05-30-2009, 10:47 PM

Cool thanks for your input. Sounds like i will prolly go with those. Thanks

gadget · 05-30-2009, 11:50 PM

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=262732

go to post #4 by Ken 37.73

Julius@WSTO · 06-01-2009, 02:35 PM

these are great tires, although relatively unknown.
prices are just amazing too!

modbargains · 06-01-2009, 02:48 PM

+1 on all that's been said, those tires are GREAT!

MidwestBimmerFan · 06-01-2009, 05:40 PM

Awesome! thanks for your help.

vinnycg · 06-01-2009, 09:05 PM

Sick tires. I have them on right now and I'm loving them. Very quiet and the car basically rides very factory.

Highly recommend them.

-Vin

lucid · 06-01-2009, 09:35 PM

What's wet traction like with these? Anyone been on a wet track with them?

GregW / Oregon · 06-01-2009, 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lucid

What's wet traction like with these? Anyone been on a wet track with them?

Found this: http://www.reifendirekt.de/review/13...entestcom.html

gadget · 06-01-2009, 10:59 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyWMTiXPbLQ

GregW / Oregon · 06-01-2009, 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Julius@WheelSTO

these are great tires, although relatively unknown.
prices are just amazing too!

I love PS2s, but at half the price and higher treadwear index (280 vs, 220), I might have to give them a try. My rears are gone. The Guigiaro designed tread is kind of cool, too.

Applicable sizes in 19s are:

245/35 ZR 19 93 Y XL
255/35 ZR 19 96 Y XL
275/35 ZR 19 100 Y XL
295/30 ZR 19 100 Y XL

Unfortunately, no 19" 285s. Nothing wider than a 255 in 40-series 18s. And no dealers in Oregon.

http://www.vredestein.com/Banden_Ban...erSessionID=73

http://www.europeancarweb.com/tech/e...nta/index.html

gadget · 06-01-2009, 11:23 PM

Where are they sold?

GregW / Oregon · 06-01-2009, 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gadget

Where are they sold?

http://ssl.delti.com/cgi-bin/rshop.p...p=Summer_Tires seems to have the best information. There is also a list of dealers on the Vredestein skite I included a link for.

Adonislike · 06-02-2009, 12:19 AM

YES!!!

A dealer right down the street. I had heard of these a couple weeks ago and have been doing a little research myself. I may have to put these on when the RAC's come....

Adonislike · 06-02-2009, 12:20 AM

Wait a minute...just read Gregs post on sizes. Hmmmm, maybe not

aus · 06-02-2009, 03:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregW / Oregon

I love PS2s, but at half the price and higher treadwear index (280 vs, 220), I might have to give them a try. My rears are gone. The Guigiaro designed tread is kind of cool, too.

Applicable sizes in 19s are:

245/35 ZR 19 93 Y XL
255/35 ZR 19 96 Y XL
275/35 ZR 19 100 Y XL
295/30 ZR 19 100 Y XL

Unfortunately, no 19" 285s. Nothing wider than a 255 in 40-series 18s. And no dealers in Oregon.

Thanks for the info.
And at HALF the price

, that's a DEAL!!!

These guys are local to me, and are a nice shop to deal with.

http://www.performanceplustire.com/p...678#prodAnchor

$219 for a 295/30-19!!

GregW / Oregon · 06-02-2009, 11:52 AM

Reviews:

Note: This test was on a front-wheel drive Golf, so may not be real applicable to our cars: http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article...-Tyre-Test.htm

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Vr...c-Sessanta.htm

foosh · 06-02-2009, 01:28 PM

Interesting . . . the reviews are consistently positive, and ratings are very high. I did a quick Google search, but was not able to locate detailed specs.

Has anyone located weight, height, and width data for these for comparison to PS2s in the sizes we're likely to use (245-255/35/19 and 265-275/35/19)?

GregW / Oregon · 06-02-2009, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by foosh

Interesting . . . the reviews are consistently positive, and ratings are very high. I did a quick Google search, but was not able to locate detailed specs.

Has anyone located weight, height, and width data for these for comparison to PS2s in the sizes we're likely to use (245-255/35/19 and 265-275/35/19)?

I've sent a query to tires-easy.com.

Adonislike · 06-02-2009, 04:32 PM

Wow.

I just got off the phone with the dealer by my house. He gave me a VERY aggressive price for these. May be good margin in these tires for him to go that way. Or, he just needs the business. Think I'll be doing these for sure. Just not sure about the size

Adonislike · 06-02-2009, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lucid

What's wet traction like with these? Anyone been on a wet track with them?

Check this out lucid...this talks about the wet traction in their review a little bit. Greg originally posted the link

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Vr...c-Sessanta.htm

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05-30-2009, 08:18 PM	#2
hl0m4n Brigadier General Drives: 335i-->328i Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NY Posts: 4,426 iTrader: (29)	they are fantastic tires and for those who have them they will say the same. if you read some recent tire test and reviews you will see that the vreds perform equal to or outperform the ps2 depending on the review; but more importantly what i am trying to say is that they are up there. they are a great bargain tire from a growing dutch tire company. __________________ My Reviews: 335i Supersprint Full Exhaust, C/F Trim Wrap Service, Alcantara Boot Bundle Service, VMR V710, Saikou Michi Custom Oil Catch Can For Sale:

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lucid Major General Drives: Z4M coupe; E30 M3 track Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USA Posts: 7,735 iTrader: (0) View lucid's Garage	What's wet traction like with these? Anyone been on a wet track with them? __________________

05-30-2009, 10:47 PM	#3
MidwestBimmerFan Private First Class Drives: E92 M3, 1995 E36 M3, 1976 2002 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Willowbrook, IL Posts: 147 iTrader: (0)	Cool thanks for your input. Sounds like i will prolly go with those. Thanks

05-30-2009, 11:50 PM	#4
gadget Major Drives: 09 e92///M SSII DCT Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: US Posts: 1,190 iTrader: (0)	http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=262732 go to post #4 by Ken 37.73

06-01-2009, 05:40 PM	#7
MidwestBimmerFan Private First Class Drives: E92 M3, 1995 E36 M3, 1976 2002 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Willowbrook, IL Posts: 147 iTrader: (0)	Awesome! thanks for your help.

06-01-2009, 09:05 PM	#8
vinnycg Lieutenant Drives: 2005 Infiniti G35 Coupe Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: New York Posts: 460 iTrader: (1)	Sick tires. I have them on right now and I'm loving them. Very quiet and the car basically rides very factory. Highly recommend them. -Vin

06-01-2009, 10:59 PM	#11
gadget Major Drives: 09 e92///M SSII DCT Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: US Posts: 1,190 iTrader: (0)	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyWMTiXPbLQ

06-01-2009, 11:23 PM	#13
gadget Major Drives: 09 e92///M SSII DCT Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: US Posts: 1,190 iTrader: (0)	Where are they sold?

06-02-2009, 12:19 AM	#15
Adonislike Captain Drives: Toyota Insight/Honda Prius Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Southern California Posts: 842 iTrader: (1)	YES!!! A dealer right down the street. I had heard of these a couple weeks ago and have been doing a little research myself. I may have to put these on when the RAC's come....

06-02-2009, 12:20 AM	#16
Adonislike Captain Drives: Toyota Insight/Honda Prius Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Southern California Posts: 842 iTrader: (1)	Wait a minute...just read Gregs post on sizes. Hmmmm, maybe not

06-02-2009, 11:52 AM	#18
GregW / Oregon Commander-In-Chief Drives: 2008 M3 Coupe, 2006 ML350 Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Lake Oswego, OR Posts: 5,581 iTrader: (0) View GregW / Oregon's Garage	Reviews: Note: This test was on a front-wheel drive Golf, so may not be real applicable to our cars: http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article...-Tyre-Test.htm http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Vr...c-Sessanta.htm __________________ Greg Lake Oswego, Oregon, USA 2008 M3 Coupe - Alpine/Fox Red/Carbon 2001 M3 Coupe - SOLD 3/08 2006 Mercedes-Benz ML350 - Pewter/Charcoal Alcantara/Aluminum Last edited by GregW / Oregon; 06-02-2009 at 12:20 PM.

06-02-2009, 01:28 PM	#19
foosh Major Drives: 2008 M3 E93 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Annapolis, MD Posts: 1,300 iTrader: (0)	Interesting . . . the reviews are consistently positive, and ratings are very high. I did a quick Google search, but was not able to locate detailed specs. Has anyone located weight, height, and width data for these for comparison to PS2s in the sizes we're likely to use (245-255/35/19 and 265-275/35/19)? __________________

06-02-2009, 04:32 PM	#21
Adonislike Captain Drives: Toyota Insight/Honda Prius Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Southern California Posts: 842 iTrader: (1)	Wow. I just got off the phone with the dealer by my house. He gave me a VERY aggressive price for these. May be good margin in these tires for him to go that way. Or, he just needs the business. Think I'll be doing these for sure. Just not sure about the size