Shift Knobs: ZHP or f10 M5?

BimmerRookie · 12-30-2016, 08:40 AM

F10. Not because I need the light to shift, but to maintain the OEM appearance of the interior.

MachinesWithSouls · 12-30-2016, 09:26 AM

I have the F10 and love it. I certainly don't need the light to tell me where gears are, but it looks better.

Cerberus · 01-04-2017, 12:00 PM

Installed the ZHP shift knob. A definite improvement in feel over the stock one. Only took about 10 minutes to complete the install. I don't miss the illumination, since my hand covers the top of the knob when driving.

However, one gripe I have of the ZHP knob change is my hand hits the console base when shifting to 1,3 or 5 since it sits lower overall, so I have to keep my hand higher up on the knob when shifting. Not a biggie but still a flaw of the conversion.

shimmy23 · 01-04-2017, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Cerberus

However, one gripe I have of the ZHP knob change is my hand hits the console base when shifting to 1,3 or 5 since it sits lower overall, so I have to keep my hand higher up on the knob when shifting. Not a biggie but still a flaw of the conversion.

interesting. I don't have that problem at all.

either you bend your wrist too much or you have banana hands.

-BEASTMW- · 01-05-2017, 12:31 AM

Had a ZHP knob on my old E39 M5 and just installed the F10 knob on my E90 last weekend. They are effectively the same except for the lighting and boot, obviously. The mob itself helps the shift throw and makes shifts feel substantially more solid and positive.

I chose the M5 knob because of the lighting - I just think it looks nice and don't like taking features away that were there before. I found the install to be easier than expected and didn't use any glue - took me an hour start to finish.

jcolt · 01-18-2017, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by STooK

I'd get the F10 knob retrofit in a heartbeat but I'm lazy and don't want to go through the trouble.

Does anyone know where I can get one that is already mated to the e9x base ring?

Wondering the same thing

Flying Ace · 01-18-2017, 12:58 PM

BTW, I have a F30 M Performance knob with OE alcantara boot for sale if you want to go this route. Same assembly/modification steps as you would take to do the F10 knob.

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=813388
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=913783

burnurass · 01-20-2017, 02:56 PM

You can also use an F80 M3/M4 knob as well. Same concept as F10 M5.

meko · 05-26-2017, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by burnurass

You can also use an F80 M3/M4 knob as well. Same concept as F10 M5.

Is F80 weighted? And does anyone know the weight offhand?

91foxbody · 05-26-2017, 08:23 PM

I must be the only person in the world that struggled with getting the F10 M5 boot onto the stock boot ring. I tried for hours, and it still never "clicked" into place like it should.

6ixSpd · 05-27-2017, 02:31 PM

Just installed a F10 M5 shift knob with a LeatherZ black leather +tri-stitching shift boot. Looks fantastic and feels great too compared to the light gooseneck stock shift knob.

Flying Ace · 05-27-2017, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Flying Ace

BTW, I have a F30 M Performance knob with OE alcantara boot for sale if you want to go this route. Same assembly/modification steps as you would take to do the F10 knob.

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=813388
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=913783

If anyone wants to used M Peformance knob, mine is for sale. Includes the full boot.

Koach · 05-31-2017, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by 6ixSpd

Just installed a F10 M5 shift knob with a LeatherZ black leather +tri-stitching shift boot. Looks fantastic and feels great too compared to the light gooseneck stock shift knob.

Looks great! Don't suppose you have a part number?

6ixSpd · 05-31-2017, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Koach

Looks great! Don't suppose you have a part number?

Search "F10 Shift Knob" on these forums. There's loads of threads covering the modification including part numbers and instructions.

Koach · 05-31-2017, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by 6ixSpd

Search "F10 Shift Knob" on these forums. There's loads of threads covering the modification including part numbers and instructions.

Ok, will do. I checked eBay and none had the tri color stitching...

6ixSpd · 05-31-2017, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Koach

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Originally Posted by 6ixSpd

Just installed a F10 M5 shift knob with a LeatherZ black leather +tri-stitching shift boot. Looks fantastic and feels great too compared to the light gooseneck stock shift knob.

Ok, will do. I checked eBay and none had the tri color stitching...

See emphasized part above.

vchakerian · 09-13-2023, 02:04 AM

Hey folks I just purchased a e90 M3 and I really love the f10 knob zhp but I really don’t want to do the alterations on the shift boot. Is there anyone that does the work and I can pay them? Like a company.. or individual? I would love to replace my current shift knob with the zhp and I wanted to keep the Original look.

CamasM3e93 · 09-13-2023, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by vchakerian

Hey folks I just purchased a e90 M3 and I really love the f10 knob zhp but I really don’t want to do the alterations on the shift boot. Is there anyone that does the work and I can pay them? Like a company.. or individual? I would love to replace my current shift knob with the zhp and I wanted to keep the Original look.

You don’t have to replace the boot or change the look to go ZHP. You can cut the leather boot off the old shifter knob and re-use it below the zhp: pulling the boot inside out and upside down, slide the narrow opening over the shifter bar and tighten a zip tie down over the leather. Then as you move the base of the boot down to the console the boot becomes outside out and then you install the knob. The leather boot slides up to the knob and the look is oem. I did this with zhp and later with the Turner weighted knob which I prefer.

kolosy · 09-13-2023, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by CamasM3e93

You don’t have to replace the boot or change the look to go ZHP. You can cut the leather boot off the old shifter knob and re-use it below the zhp: pulling the boot inside out and upside down, slide the narrow opening over the shifter bar and tighten a zip tie down over the leather. Then as you move the base of the boot down to the console the boot becomes outside out and then you install the knob. The leather boot slides up to the knob and the look is oem. I did this with zhp and later with the Turner weighted knob which I prefer.

i thought you couldn't get a backlit knob that way though? maybe i'm misremembering.

vchakerian · 10-18-2023, 01:24 AM

So I ended up getting the f10 knob and just had to shorten the leather boot on it to fit the e90 shift knob bracket

12-30-2016, 08:40 AM	#23
BimmerRookie Major 469 Rep 1,320 Posts Drives: E93 Cavalier Z24 M3 Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Austin, TX iTrader: (0)	F10. Not because I need the light to shift, but to maintain the OEM appearance of the interior.
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MachinesWithSouls Colonel 4836 Rep 2,442 Posts Drives: 2022 M3 6MT Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: New Jersey iTrader: (0) Garage List 2022 BMW M3 [10.00]	I have the F10 and love it. I certainly don't need the light to tell me where gears are, but it looks better. __________________ 2022 M3 6MT - Portimao Blue Metallic 2022 X3 M40i - Tanzanite Blue Metallic
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Cerberus Private First Class 51 Rep 147 Posts Drives: econobox Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: NC iTrader: (2)	Installed the ZHP shift knob. A definite improvement in feel over the stock one. Only took about 10 minutes to complete the install. I don't miss the illumination, since my hand covers the top of the knob when driving. However, one gripe I have of the ZHP knob change is my hand hits the console base when shifting to 1,3 or 5 since it sits lower overall, so I have to keep my hand higher up on the knob when shifting. Not a biggie but still a flaw of the conversion.
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01-05-2017, 12:31 AM	#27
-BEASTMW- Lieutenant 158 Rep 455 Posts Drives: 2011 E90 M3 Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Sunnyvale, CA iTrader: (0)	Had a ZHP knob on my old E39 M5 and just installed the F10 knob on my E90 last weekend. They are effectively the same except for the lighting and boot, obviously. The mob itself helps the shift throw and makes shifts feel substantially more solid and positive. I chose the M5 knob because of the lighting - I just think it looks nice and don't like taking features away that were there before. I found the install to be easier than expected and didn't use any glue - took me an hour start to finish. __________________ 2011.5 E90 M3 White/Red, 6MT, ZCP, slicktop Past: '02 S2000, '01 M5, '98 Integra w/many mods
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Flying Ace Lieutenant General 4985 Rep 11,891 Posts Drives: G05 45e, 997.1 & 991.1 GT3s Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: SF, CA iTrader: (5)	BTW, I have a F30 M Performance knob with OE alcantara boot for sale if you want to go this route. Same assembly/modification steps as you would take to do the F10 knob. http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=813388 http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=913783 __________________ 22 Phytonic/Coffee X5 45e (CoVID-free) 08 Speed Yellow 911 GT3 Sharkwerks 12 AW/Cinnamon X5d Sports Pkg (retired) 14 AW/Beige M6GC ZCP, MPE, V2 steering wheel, vorsteiner (retired) 08 SSII/Black E90 M3 (retired)
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burnurass Second Lieutenant 92 Rep 211 Posts Drives: 2014 X5 50i MSport Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: NJ iTrader: (4)	You can also use an F80 M3/M4 knob as well. Same concept as F10 M5.
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05-26-2017, 08:23 PM	#32
91foxbody Private First Class 47 Rep 126 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: PNW iTrader: (1)	I must be the only person in the world that struggled with getting the F10 M5 boot onto the stock boot ring. I tried for hours, and it still never "clicked" into place like it should.
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6ixSpd Save the manuals! 6016 Rep 6,747 Posts Drives: '16 M3, '23 718 Spyder Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: 416 iTrader: (4)	Just installed a F10 M5 shift knob with a LeatherZ black leather +tri-stitching shift boot. Looks fantastic and feels great too compared to the light gooseneck stock shift knob. __________________ '16 M3 \| '23 718 Spyder Past: E92 M3, F87 M2, E39 M5, etc
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vchakerian New Member 12 Rep 29 Posts Drives: LeMans Blue E90 6MT Join Date: Aug 2021 Location: Southern California iTrader: (0)	Hey folks I just purchased a e90 M3 and I really love the f10 knob zhp but I really don’t want to do the alterations on the shift boot. Is there anyone that does the work and I can pay them? Like a company.. or individual? I would love to replace my current shift knob with the zhp and I wanted to keep the Original look.
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10-18-2023, 01:24 AM	#42
vchakerian New Member 12 Rep 29 Posts Drives: LeMans Blue E90 6MT Join Date: Aug 2021 Location: Southern California iTrader: (0)	So I ended up getting the f10 knob and just had to shorten the leather boot on it to fit the e90 shift knob bracket
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