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well..on a 6MT from 6 to 2nd...?
usually I'd do 6 to 3rd....for the turn... anything below that you are breaking it...no? Quote:
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10-03-2011, 12:48 AM | #25 |
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Why I didn't get DCT, realizing things like this. Sequential shifts are very fast, but 6th->2nd or 6th->3rd takes time, much easier in 6MT. This happens all the time in real-world driving, cruise to hard acceleration. Anecdotes of Schumacher not needing this miss the point entirely. I certainly don't think "pentuple clicking" the paddle is fun or efficient.
Also DCT has slightly higher internal loss - the near instantaneous shift only saves an official 200ms off 0-60, I doubt that number is entirely the difference between a DCT shift and a human shift, likely it's much faster than a human, and 200ms is what's left of the difference with additional loss. *shrug*
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I hate it in my MT when I floor it and it doesn't change the gears automatically for me
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10-03-2011, 07:27 AM | #27 | |
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Now, it may be true that if you hold the paddle down first and then floor it, it still does the multigear shift. But even if that works, keep in mind the transmission will actually have done two downshifts in this situation - one when you first pulled the paddle and one when you floored the accelerator. Not sure what you meant by breaking it. If you meant "breaking it loose", then that would all depend on how fast you are going and how you use the accelerator. If you meant "damaging it", then no, you cannot damage a transmission by downshifting, unless you are talking about an overrev (money shift). But that would depend on the speed in which you are going. You can travel at over 70mph in 2nd gear, remember. And of course, while you can overrev a manual, with DCT it won't let you shift into an overrev situation. |
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10-03-2011, 07:58 AM | #28 |
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The only skip shift I do regularly is 4>6 after hard acceleration onto a freeway. Skip shifting on the way down like 6>3 seems to require double-clutching (and even if it doesn't I'd do it anyway to ease the synchros) and I just don't find myself needing it that often. Plus rev-matching on this engine sounds so sweet that I take every opportunity I can get to downshift.
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10-03-2011, 08:01 AM | #29 |
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If you're in 5th...and you want 2nd...1...2...3...really fast on the paddle.
I double and triple down all the time...just to hear the rev match. It's incredibly fast and easy to do...so I don't understand all the DCT fail talk. Up until my '11, I've always owned manuals, but I love the DCT.
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Oh boy not another DCT vs 6MT battle thread...
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Just floor it until you feel the little click, then downshift. It'll drop down multiple gears for you. What happens after that is all up to you
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10-03-2011, 08:37 AM | #33 |
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I was going to say that until I re-read his post and realized he wants to skip gears downshifting while DEcelerating, which doesn't seem to be possible.
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Also, OP take into account you are only at 711 miles and the transmission does "learn" your driving style which takes some time. Eventually in D mode it should drive like you want it to because it will have adapted to your style. I'm not sure this will explain point #3 but here's to hoping.
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Add one more annoying thing. Was heading home last night and was stuck behind a car doing about 55 (transmission in manual mode in 7th gear). Went to pass when legal and simultaneously stomped the gas and clicked the down paddle twice. The car read the peddle input first and then processed my down shifts and I was instantly in second gear bouncing off the rev limiter. I assumed the car wouldn't down shift automatically in manual mode. Kind of annoyed me.
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Who the F goes from 6 gear to 2nd???
Do yourself a favor and attend some driving school or M school, something. What RPM are we talking about here? Even driving 6MT, going 6mt to 2nd, still makes little sense to me, I can't even think of a situation that you would be cruising in 6th gear and then all of a sudden want to get into 2nd year...unless you are hyper-miling or something...??? |
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I'll bet you actually discovered the "skip downshift" ability noted above, where it responded to flooring it and a downshift by shifting down to the best gear. Your second paddle shift may have sent it down one more. Cheers |
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When you floor it, you'll feel a "click" as the pedal goes all the way down. When you feel that click, one flip of the downshift will automatically match to the best gear. If you flip it more than once like you did, you'll go down even further and find yourself bouncing off the rev limiter. Don't blame the DCT
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BTW in F1 (as in new ferrari's/mclaren mp4) if you hold the downshift paddle down while braking the engine will continue to blip down through the gears maintaining the highest possible RPM for maximum engine braking. This also allows you to skip gears on the road.
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