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I have came across this Tunning Company with some impressive claims.Sounds to me that they have succeded similar resaults with Noelle Motorsport in a American Price Tag.Delete of the First Catalytic Converters and ReProgramm the ECU...Does anyone have any reviw on this Company about the level of expertice on BMW over the years...?????Bottom line looks like they have managed to get 40 Wheel Horse Power with these modifications(something that Noelle (476 hp) also claims) and that alone is a something at least worthy of mentioning...
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Turner Motorsport is extremely well respected in the BMW community as they race, modify, tune, and sell BMW parts. Not unlike companies like EVOsport.....
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11-11-2008, 10:09 AM | #4 |
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humm..
Well they do have a base run and and after with the mods and it is 40hp more thats a fact.. But keep in mind those dyna pack hub dyno read high... Its not a load base dyno so it doesnt put load on the tires, it just spins freely with no resistance.. Dyno Dynamics, Mustang dyno, and dyno jet (roller type)... "Mac Daddy" Dyno Dynamics IMO The Dyno Dynamics is one of the best Dynos out there.. Some people dont like it cuz they usally get low number.. As far as tunning the DD and the Mustang hands down.
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Sorry about the curly hair on one of the dyno sheets..... LOL
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11-11-2008, 10:56 AM | #6 |
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$1800 for Stage 1 software gets you 17HP/16TQ. If you want to increase rev limiter to 8600 RPM it's an additional $300! Ouch!
For stage 2 you have to get race headers to delete the front cats as well as the reprogram of the software. This will give you 40 HP/32TQ for $1900 +$300 for increasing the rev limiter to 8600 RPM. I know that Turner is a reputable company but I'd much rather go for the AA software (also another reputable company) which has been shown by PencilGeek's Dyno results (http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=178680) to give you 20+HP/20+TQ for less money, granted his baseline was with Evo Pulley's and Gruppe M CAI. |
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Thats why i always go to the track, to see if my "Dyno numbers" are true.. Your trap speed does not lie no matter how crapy a driver you are. I also never posted anything about any dyno being accurate I will keep your post in mind in the event I ever decide do go back and do a pull on a Dynapack. Cheers Luie
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So they leave the secondary cats in? Interesting, I have been wondering if the major gain in the exhaust will be found in the primary cats. I keep hearing conflicting opinions on what the loss of backpressure without the primary will do to the low end torque.
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One that actual puts its products and technical skills to use on the track. They race in the Koni challange, SCCA World Challange, and BMW CCA Club racing. Their racecars (notice they have an E92 M3 racecar in the works): http://www.turnermotorsport.com/html/tms_racecars.asp |
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Hmmm....sounds like you may be confusing dynos. Edit--guess I should have read the whole thread before responding--sorry.
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The further problem with this approach of deleting front cats is that it is "for off road use only". For most of us that have to pass emmisions tests every few years, that's not going to work.
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You can get the AA setup, bolt in the cat, bolt it out. Completely modular, not an issue.
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Removing the cats is called "tampering" by the EPA and as such is a federal offense. I don't know what the punishment is but nowadays I wouldn't be surprised if being convicted of "contempt of the EPA" gets you the death penalty.
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Hahahaha!! Well, no, not a death penalty yet, just 40 years no probation.
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I had a few questions so I contacted Turner, I think this might shed some more light:
"I was wondering about the gains you list for the Stage II M3 software. You say the primary cat is deleted by either modifying the factory manifold or by going to a race manifold. What is the cost for each? If I am not local to you how do I get my factory header modified? Where are the details on the race headers? Are the gains shown from a modified factory exhaust or the race header? Many people say the primary cat being deleted gives a loss in low end torque, is this true? " Response: Quote:
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