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I read that and said to myself, "Well if StopTech is telling me NOT to give them an extra $2300 and that I'd actually SAVE weight on the rears by not doing so, that seems like a win-win to me...." I run their Street Performance pads in the rear on both the street and track (PFC 08s in the front on the track) and don't have any issues, so easier pad swaps in the rear is basically moot for me. Btw, where did you buy from? I got my ST-60 kit from HP Autowerks, a vendor on here. Harold the owner has consistently provided great customer service and been very knowledgeable answering questions about things I've bought from him, and he often has the best online prices I've found anywhere: www.hpashop.com.
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i read it as easy pad swaps using the bridge on the rears to change pads not that you can go front to rear.
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Exactly. The only real benefit I can see of upgrading the rears is if you want to speed up pad swaps compared to the OEM caliper -- but that's a whole lot of cash to spend to make some pad swaps easier, not to mention the extra weight you're adding. Then again there are people on here who buy the super-expensive Brembo kit on all four corners, complete with calipers custom-painted for their body color, even though they have no intention of tracking the car; they just want the Brembos because "they look bad ass".
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Not to mention you'll tear through rear pads faster with a front BBK.
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Unless there was something else that I'm missing I observed a significant improvement in the car's stability under threshold braking and trail braking by adding the rear BBK. Based on my interpretation of your comment that would lead me to believe that unless you have a thermal issue on the front axle...you don't need a BBK there either. I've seen race cars with OEM brakes on all 4 axles so does that mean I do not need a BBK? I always question the "because racecar" argument.
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This guys is one of the reasons why I decided to go with rears too, the other reason was to complete the look and easier pad swap
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I'm not saying you're wrong, I am just saying that I have not noticed any problems trailbraking with the ST fronts and stock rears on my E92. I got my bbk because the stock brakes vibrate (I think it has something to do with the calipers being floating, but I am not certain) and because the stock brakes rip through pads by staying super hot. I guess different drivers and driving styles can have different results with the same mods. I just interpret the ST article to be saying that they worked hard to not change F/R bias with front only bbk. No "because racecar" arguments from me... No amount of money can make the M3 feel like a well set up open wheel car. |
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Because race-car wins every argument! no? damn! I've been lied to
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The one benefit with the ST BBK is you don't NEED a rear BBK...I agree. But the benefits go well beyond easy pad changes (you didn't say that).
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What a day and night difference at the track today. No fade, lap after lap, can probably push the braking zone a bit more. Best of all, PADs look like new, on stock calipers they would've probably been near gone by now.
If you track your car more than once a year, this is a must, I can see it paying for itself in the long run.
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I'm not exactly sure though, I was looking for signs of fluid boiling (Motul 660). All I know is that after that, pedal was solid, so maybe a bit of both.
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Yup, I was using RS29 front and RS19 rear.
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I dont think you can bed those pads on the track in traffic. If you dont follow very weird bedding procedure recommended by Pagid, they are useless. I didnt know that when i used them for the first time, bedded them my way, which pretty much ruined my track weekend.
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