Dinan Releases M3 Software

[Adonislike]

Originally Posted by BMW-M-Mexico

Not very impressive, even if they are conservative it would be stupid to be that conservative. Most ECU reflashes can get a respectable 20 hp more or less.

+1. Not impressive at all

[GregW / Oregon]

Originally Posted by AMJ_77

I am sure I am going to go with the Dinan tune, they are always conservative and they do have their warranty. What bugs me is I have tried to call them for the last three days and can't talk to anyone about their products. Their customer service seems to be shit, they also don't return their messages

Customer service on my Dinan spring order was marginal. I waited 2 months with no communication that I didn't initiate. Agree they need to do better in that area for what they are charging.

On the subject of the value of this mod, there are those (I may fall into this category) that want modest, minimal risk gains and are willing to pay more than for perhaps larger, higher risk gains. Many pay close to $3k for a nice rear exhaust section that yields maybe 5hp, but sounds nice and is low risk. I will consider this software.

[KonigsTiger]

Originally Posted by GregW / Oregon

Customer service on my Dinan spring order was marginal. I waited 2 months with no communication that I didn't initiate. Agree they need to do better in that area for what they are charging.

On the subject of the value of this mod, there are those (I may fall into this category) that want modest, minimal risk gains and are willing to pay more than for perhaps larger, higher risk gains. Many pay close to $3k for a nice rear exhaust section that yields maybe 5hp, but sounds nice and is low risk. I will consider this software.

I think that is fair. To each his own. I´ve always respected Dinan.

[doba_s]

Originally Posted by PencilGeek

Dyno charts...or ban.

haha

[M3WC]

I see people saying powerchip, AA, etc. get 20+hp. Was this on a stock car with tune only? All powerchip threads I have seen, the cars have other mods like full race exhaust.

[doba_s]

Originally Posted by GregW / Oregon

Customer service on my Dinan spring order was marginal. I waited 2 months with no communication that I didn't initiate. Agree they need to do better in that area for what they are charging.

On the subject of the value of this mod, there are those (I may fall into this category) that want modest, minimal risk gains and are willing to pay more than for perhaps larger, higher risk gains. Many pay close to $3k for a nice rear exhaust section that yields maybe 5hp, but sounds nice and is low risk. I will consider this software.

I agree with you Greg ... But I think it is a bit too much for 9HP and the crank ... we are talking about ~4-5whp for 799 ...

[AMJ_77]

Does it say crank HP or is it rwHP? I don't see it listed.

[powertrip]

Originally Posted by GregW / Oregon

Customer service on my Dinan spring order was marginal. I waited 2 months with no communication that I didn't initiate. Agree they need to do better in that area for what they are charging.

On the subject of the value of this mod, there are those (I may fall into this category) that want modest, minimal risk gains and are willing to pay more than for perhaps larger, higher risk gains. Many pay close to $3k for a nice rear exhaust section that yields maybe 5hp, but sounds nice and is low risk. I will consider this software.

You make a valid point. In addition to the power gains, you do pick up increased smoothness and drivability by flashing your ECU. I don't know how much power I picked up with my AA flash, but the better bottom-end power and lack of cold-start rough idle were worth the cost to me by themselves.

[SoCalM3Mang]

Originally Posted by JetBlack5OC

I see people saying powerchip, AA, etc. get 20+hp. Was this on a stock car with tune only? All powerchip threads I have seen, the cars have other mods like full race exhaust.

Good points bro!

Real quick and I'll start a new thread about this. I just had my AA Pulley Kit/system installed today at EuroRev. I had the AA ECU upgrade done at Bimmerfest and also my SSK kit installed last week also at EuroRev.

I gotta say (and yes I'm retarded as Eloy and Joe(RPI) will continue to point out that I didn't get a baseline dyno done before any of these mods), I feel like my E93 is a totally different car. She is literally "JUMPY" in low gear now. All three of these Mods give me some "SERIOUS BUT DYNO POWER".

My E93 is definitely not as fast as the Cpe off the line do to the weight difference, but damn is she a whole lot chippier off the block and raging hyena at 4750 RPMs and higher. Pulls and pulls and then "pulls away" from most.

Anyone considering getting these Mods, contact Omar @ Active and do it. You won't regret it.

Peace!

[powertrip]

Originally Posted by SoCalM3Mang

Good points bro!

Real quick and I'll start a new thread about this. I just had my AA Pulley Kit/system installed today at EuroRev. I had the AA ECU upgrade done at Bimmerfest and also my SSK kit installed last week also at EuroRev.

I gotta say (and yes I'm retarded as Eloy and Joe(RPI) will continue to point out that I didn't get a baseline dyno done before any of these mods), I feel like my E93 is a totally different car. She is literally "JUMPY" in low gear now. All three of these Mods give me some "SERIOUS BUT DYNO POWER".

My E93 is definitely not as fast as the Cpe off the line do to the weight difference, but damn is she a whole lot chippier off the block and raging hyena at 4750 RPMs and higher. Pulls and pulls and then "pulls away" from most.

Anyone considering getting these Mods, contact Omar @ Active and do it. You won't regret it.

Peace!

How do you like the AA pulley? I've been debating puchasing this because it's so cheap, but I'm hesitant to change anything on the engine? Any insight would be appreciated .

[doba_s]

Originally Posted by powertrip

How do you like the AA pulley? I've been debating puchasing this because it's so cheap, but I'm hesitant to change anything on the engine? Any insight would be appreciated .

AA pulley is great ...

[doba_s]

Originally Posted by AMJ_77

Does it say crank HP or is it rwHP? I don't see it listed.

as far as I know all Dinan's numbers are at the crank

[AMJ_77]

Originally Posted by PencilGeek

But...

In order to get crank numbers, they'd need to pull the motor. Any idea if they've pulled the motor out of their project car? If they didn't, then these are Dynapack dyno numbers.

+1

[SoCalM3Mang]

Originally Posted by powertrip

How do you like the AA pulley? I've been debating puchasing this because it's so cheap, but I'm hesitant to change anything on the engine? Any insight would be appreciated .

I've only driven with it for one day. But WOW!

Makes a difference. Especially in combo with their ECU and SSK.

Do it! You won't regret it. Can't imagine there is any risk whatsoever. High quality product.

Good luck!

[rbk1115]

Originally Posted by BMW-M-Mexico

I think that is fair. To each his own. I´ve always respected Dinan.

+1...

[M3WC]

Are there any dynos out there of the AA or Powerchip ecu flash only? Stock car with ecu flash only: no cat deletes, no exhaust, nothing.

[J08M3]

Originally Posted by JetBlack5OC

Are there any dynos out there of the AA or Powerchip ecu flash only? Stock car with ecu flash only: no cat deletes, no exhaust, nothing.

good question. People are claiming 20+ hp gains with their AA tunes and AA themselves only claim a 15 hp gain. But it seems everyone has other work done to their cars also.

We really need some side by side driving comparisons to compare all this stuff. I think PG did one awhile back comparing ESS tune to AA. There's so much more than just peak hp number.

Is anyone getting the Dinan flash?

[doba_s]

Originally Posted by PencilGeek

But...

In order to get crank numbers, they'd need to pull the motor. Any idea if they've pulled the motor out of their project car? If they didn't, then these are Dynapack dyno numbers.

They have all the equipment for it ... but if if I am wrong , then I have a very hard time to believe that Dinan's HIGH FLOW INTAKE SYSTEM for e46 330 for $299 can get you 11whp when software for 799 gives you only 9whp ?

http://www.dinancars.com/store/produ...cat=412&page=1

I am just assuming that the numbers that they got on the dyno were around 4-5whp ... then they converted them to the 9hp at the crank ...

I am sure there will be stage 2 and 3 where they will be close to 25-30hp

[J08M3]

Originally Posted by doba_s

They have all the equipment for it ... but if if I am wrong , then I have a very hard time to believe that Dinan's HIGH FLOW INTAKE SYSTEM for e46 330 for $299 can get you 11whp when software for 799 gives you only 9whp ?

http://www.dinancars.com/store/produ...cat=412&page=1

I am just assuming that the numbers that they got on the dyno were around 4-5whp ... then they converted them to the 9hp at the crank ...

I am sure there will be stage 2 and 3 where they will be close to 25-30hp

How are you possibly comparing the price of intake per HP to the price of software per HP? Never mind the fact that it's not priced based on HP gains, but they aren't even products for the same car.

[AMJ_77]

Originally Posted by doba_s

They have all the equipment for it ... but if if I am wrong , then I have a very hard time to believe that Dinan's HIGH FLOW INTAKE SYSTEM for e46 330 for $299 can get you 11whp when software for 799 gives you only 9whp ?

http://www.dinancars.com/store/produ...cat=412&page=1

I am just assuming that the numbers that they got on the dyno were around 4-5whp ... then they converted them to the 9hp at the crank ...

I am sure there will be stage 2 and 3 where they will be close to 25-30hp

Let us know if you have some real facts, I just don't like when people spew assumptions like fact

[tunnie]

would this void your warranty?

[doba_s]

Originally Posted by J08M3

How are you possibly comparing the price of intake per HP to the price of software per HP? Never mind the fact that it's not priced based on HP gains, but they aren't even products for the same car.

i am not comparing the price ... my point is that it is hard to believe for me that you can gain 11whp on these cars just by changing intake ... it is more believable that it is 11hp at the crank ...