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Tire setup for beginners
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I'm a beginner at the track, so only had about 2 track days. I purchased a set of wheels with adman ad08r and they are running low. Was wondering if tires are extremely important even for beginners and replacing with advan ad08r would be the right choice? What other options are there in comparison? Thanks! |
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For a complete noob, I find a regular summer tire to be better because you get more feedback in a sense and you reach the limit of the tire much easier. If your tires aren't squealing, you don't yet need to start looking for a better tire.
It takes a good amount of skill to reach the limits of a good tire like the ad08. So if you have your stock wheels with good tires, try those out first. I always try to drive a car on track as stock as possible before finding any of my weaknesses or the car's limitations. |
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I have never yet tracked my new-to-me E90 M3, but i have tracked my other vehicles before.
Replacing your current tires with AD08R will be great. No need for R-comps yet. When you ask the question "Was wondering if tires are extremely important even for beginners" are you actually trying to ask to downgrade the tires to something more civilized? If so, then don't. AD08R and equivalent tires are great for learning the driving dynamics and how your car handles around the track. They offer exceptional driving performance and manageable comfort for the street. Also have better thread life than most EXTREME summer/track tires. If you downgrade.. well... you don't get as much as the car might become and handful on more precise control/knowledge about your vehicle dynamics will be warranted to keep your lap tidy. Cheers and have fun!
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Michelin Pilot Super Sports are another great street/track tire.
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I would argue otherwise. They are a great street tire. On a track, they overheat very fast, has soft sidewalls that flex a lot and lack grip. PSS only has sticky tire compound on the outside of the tire. The inside tire compound is a less sticky wear resistant compound.
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You can drive anything on track. I've driven T speed rated Roadhugger brand tires... and some tires called the "Grey Hawk". No one really cares. haha
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You mean sub 3000lbs track cars? The porky E9x M3 chews PSS' up at the track. Not only do the tires become greasy after only a couple laps, the tire starts to chunk. Seen it many times on many M3's.
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Personally I was looking at the PSS but went with Continental DW for $400 less a set. My car will only see 4-5 track events a year so I wanted something more street friendly.
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I'd say PSS is fine for a beginner, especially if driving in the rain is a possibility. AD08Rs wouldn't be unreasonable for a novice the way R comps would be, although it's certainly not necessary, and extra care would be warranted in the rain. I do agree novices will take a while to fully utilize an Extreme Summer tire, though -- but that's also true of a PSS, frankly. I'm glad I held off on upgrading rubber as long as I did. You can learn a lot by limiting your grip because lots of grip can mask mistakes and hinder the learning process, which is why many groups forbid R comps in lower run groups.
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