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12-13-2008, 05:02 PM | #113 |
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Good stuff! I decided to move on from the E46 and I've been driving the E92 for a few weeks now, really like the car, and have been wondering how it would respond to boost, looks like my hope that it would, was true! Reassuring to know the motor is handeling that boost level on pump fuel too!
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12-14-2008, 03:47 AM | #116 | |
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Wow, I would have never guessed ESS would be able to do that quicker than VF or Active. 600 wheel at 8 psi... I'm so turned on. |
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12-15-2008, 01:33 AM | #117 |
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Remember, even the 601whp was on pump fuel (93) and before fine tuning. They are already into durability testing which will take a few months as they hit the streets, their test track, the Autobahn, and the Nurburgring. Power numbers could change as they dial the system into perfection and reliability, but it is nice to see what it can do! Makes me want an M3.
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12-15-2008, 02:19 AM | #118 | |
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12-15-2008, 05:19 AM | #119 |
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I asked what we should expect for California 91.
For California 91, we should expect 6 PSI or less and around 525 rwhp, which is what I predicted a few months back On 100 octane and a high boost pulley, it should be able to go over 600 wheel easily. With water / meth, who knows. |
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Yea i would say at least another 50-75 rwhp on high octane and another 35-50 on meth. Question is will the motor handle over 700rwhp? Im happy with 600rwhp . I hope that everyone will release their supercharger kits around the same time to drive competition up and prices down.
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12-15-2008, 09:14 PM | #124 | |
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Granted, I hear you -- and I love the roots blowers, and generally do prefer roots and turbos to centrifugal. But ^^ above statement again - they're crazy ridiculous.
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12-15-2008, 10:14 PM | #125 | |
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Centrifugal superchargers on high revving V8s are a lot of fun. A roots or twin screw blower on an 8400rpm V8 would be a mistake. very linear power curve, not the huge spike of a turbo. |
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I've been in a procharged C5 Z06, and it was enough to scare me into a prius for the rest of my life. As far as which way for forced induction, you guys may be right, with the sky high redline turbo or sc might be the only way to go.
I apologize for my ignorance, but what is the problem with a roots on ITB's? Fitment? |
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12-19-2008, 09:06 AM | #128 |
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Well, now its only a matter of seeing how much??? Would love to see one of these systems finalized and tested.
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12-19-2008, 11:20 AM | #130 |
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This is 100% correct in my view!
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I've owned a D1 procharged 2006 Mustang it was fun, made 523rwhp and 493rwtq, but it's nothing compared to my Shelby GT500 with the roots hybrid blower. Torque on demand makes a big difference. My friend has a 600rwhp TT Mustang that's a lot of fun as well. I really think I'd prefer a turbo on an M3 as opposed to a centrifugal or roots. The turbo would also be more effecient that both of those. Only problem is where the hell do you put anything?
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12-19-2008, 07:23 PM | #132 |
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Not quite. It has to do with the fact that with a positive displacement like the Roots/Lysholm, you have the throttle body *before* the compressor. This is impossible with the ITBs.
However, it can be done by removing the ITBs and adding a single big "main" TB to the kit before the compressor. ESS created this for the E46 M3, however, it induces a response lag that did not meet their drivability standards and so the project was scrapped. It did make silly power though! |
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