Adjustable end-links

tlrid3r · 10-18-2015, 06:24 PM

Looking for a strong durable adjustable endlink for e92 m3. Front and Rear. Factory one are great but none adjustable but after corner balance sway bars was always loaded. Got a hotckins one for front and rear and rear already failed. Any recommendations so far found a few brands for the front but no rear ones.

TIA.

Cidle · 10-18-2015, 08:37 PM

The only rear ones I know of, good looking sealed units. Have yet to order for myself.

http://ind-distribution.com/ind/bran...r-end-link-kit

Hujan · 10-18-2015, 09:21 PM

Like the member above said, I believe the only rear ones on the market are the Fall Line ones linked to above.

I believe the rears are a PITA to install, though.

PrimeBMW · 10-18-2015, 09:30 PM

I have front end links from bimmerworld but have yet to install. $109.

surlynkid · 10-19-2015, 06:19 AM

Rears require that you remove the axle shafts to get the bolt in and out.

tlrid3r · 10-19-2015, 03:42 PM

Thanks fall-line looks good. Yeah I have already replaced one with the piece of shit hotckins. I got no choice.

zero2sixtyZ · 10-27-2015, 01:27 PM

Turner sells them for the M3 (with the conical adapters) and in various lengths.

AriuSen · 10-27-2015, 01:39 PM

Just a question. Im going to replace my h&r back to OEM front sway bar. I had a aftermarket adjustable end link to be used with the h&r. My question is, once I put the OEM back, should I put also OEM endlink? or leave the aftermarket?

Malek@MRF · 10-27-2015, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by m3SennA

Just a question. Im going to replace my h&r back to OEM front sway bar. I had a aftermarket adjustable end link to be used with the h&r. My question is, once I put the OEM back, should I put also OEM endlink? or leave the aftermarket?

Your sway bar selection is not related to your end-link being adjustable. The point of the adjustable end-links is to be able to balance the bar since the car is sitting on adjustable coilovers. With corner balancing (not always), the bar can become unevenly loaded, hence the need for the adjustable bar end-links.

PS. It's best to run a stiffer front and rear bar on the E92 M3 platform, not just a stiffer front bar.

The HACK · 10-27-2015, 02:09 PM

If front end links are readily available, couldn't you ask the shop that CB'ed your car to set the rear to be even, and adjust one of the front collar to achieve the proper cross weight?

tlrid3r · 10-27-2015, 06:50 PM

It would more difficult to adjust cross weight that way and most shops don't want to do it that way. My main concern is also that a few members have snap their rear RD sport bar for having them too far preloaded and once more force is applied at track they snap. So the rear is my main concern.

The HACK · 10-27-2015, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by tlrid3r

It would more difficult to adjust cross weight that way and most shops don't want to do it that way. My main concern is also that a few members have snap their rear RD sport bar for having them too far preloaded and once more force is applied at track they snap. So the rear is my main concern.

Again, if the rear is your main concern, why not have the rear height set to be even, so there's no pre-load on the rear bars, then corner-balance using the front collar, then install adjustable front end-links to make the load even?

I don't understand? You really don't need to touch the rear links at all. This is standard practice for CB on cars as far as I know.

tlrid3r · 10-27-2015, 07:37 PM

I'll look into it.

AriuSen · 10-28-2015, 02:44 PM

anyone knows why KW clubsport only sends front enlinks and not the rear?

isnt the rear suppose to be adjusted as well?

okusa · 10-28-2015, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Malek@MRF

PS. It's best to run a stiffer front and rear bar on the E92 M3 platform, not just a stiffer front bar.

Did you mean to write "It's best to run a stiffer rear bar..."?

Greg S · 10-29-2015, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by The HACK

Again, if the rear is your main concern, why not have the rear height set to be even, so there's no pre-load on the rear bars, then corner-balance using the front collar, then install adjustable front end-links to make the load even?

I don't understand? You really don't need to touch the rear links at all. This is standard practice for CB on cars as far as I know.

If you had the rear even with no preload on the sway bar and were to adjust only the front corners it would put pre load back into the rear bar. For instance if you raised the RF corner, it would increase weight on RF and LR, and remove weight from the LF and RR. Think of your car as a chair, if you lengthen one leg it teeter totters between that and the opposite corner leg.

tlrid3r · 10-29-2015, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Greg S

Quote:

Originally Posted by The HACK

Again, if the rear is your main concern, why not have the rear height set to be even, so there's no pre-load on the rear bars, then corner-balance using the front collar, then install adjustable front end-links to make the load even?

I don't understand? You really don't need to touch the rear links at all. This is standard practice for CB on cars as far as I know.

If you had the rear even with no preload on the sway bar and were to adjust only the front corners it would put pre load back into the rear bar. For instance if you raised the RF corner, it would increase weight on RF and LR, and remove weight from the LF and RR. Think of your car as a chair, if you lengthen one leg it teeter totters between that and the opposite corner leg.

I agree thanks for the input

surlynkid · 10-30-2015, 02:37 PM

If anyone has any doubts how to set up an E92 M3 to scream around the track, ask Greg S above. His M3 is an absolute terror on track. His lap times on A7 are just a smidge behind very capable drivers in a 997.2 GT3RS on R7.

surlynkid · 10-30-2015, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by okusa

Did you mean to write "It's best to run a stiffer rear bar..."?

Stiffer rear bar just breaks the back end loose too easily. You cannot put power down early enough in the turn. I run RD front and stock rear.

AP3X_FTW · 10-30-2015, 05:39 PM

I need some new adjustable end links for the front of my e92 as well. I have MCS singles, and my current unknown adjustable end links are not the proper length. In result, my front swaybar is binding.

I am thinking of going with Bimmerworlds...

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Originally Posted by surlynkid

Stiffer rear bar just breaks the back end loose too easily. You cannot put power down early enough in the turn.

Agreed.

AriuSen · 10-30-2015, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by surlynkid

Stiffer rear bar just breaks the back end loose too easily. You cannot put power down early enough in the turn. I run RD front and stock rear.

thats what I had and going back to stock front sway bar.
the amount of understeer is ridiculous.
i rather have a loose rear by having front and rear sway bar than annoying understeer.

PrimeBMW · 11-05-2015, 01:46 PM

I just had my shop install the Bimmerworld end links yesterday. Apparently there was a bit of tension on the front sway bar because the car is lowered on MCS singles. The old oem end links were shot at 29,000 miles.

10-18-2015, 06:24 PM	#1
tlrid3r just another M3 514 Rep 1,150 Posts Drives: e92 M3 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: San Jose, ca iTrader: (6)	Looking for a strong durable adjustable endlink for e92 m3. Front and Rear. Factory one are great but none adjustable but after corner balance sway bars was always loaded. Got a hotckins one for front and rear and rear already failed. Any recommendations so far found a few brands for the front but no rear ones. TIA. __________________ ///M3... Don't want more power, Just want it to turn sharper one step closer each time. -Ohlins TTX Raceline, PolePostions seats, Akrapovic EVO, ARC-8, 1/2 Cage, Seat Delete, Stoptech BBK, solid Subframe and diff bushing, spherical bearing on everything.
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10-18-2015, 08:37 PM	#2
Cidle First Lieutenant 50 Rep 368 Posts Drives: 2008 M3 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Vancouver, BC iTrader: (2)	The only rear ones I know of, good looking sealed units. Have yet to order for myself. http://ind-distribution.com/ind/bran...r-end-link-kit Last edited by Cidle; 10-18-2015 at 11:14 PM..
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Hujan Brigadier General 569 Rep 3,742 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: . iTrader: (16)	Like the member above said, I believe the only rear ones on the market are the Fall Line ones linked to above. I believe the rears are a PITA to install, though.
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10-18-2015, 09:30 PM	#4
PrimeBMW Major 662 Rep 1,424 Posts Drives: E46 M3+S62, E92 M3 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Portland, OR iTrader: (0)	I have front end links from bimmerworld but have yet to install. $109.
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10-19-2015, 06:19 AM	#5
surlynkid Major 115 Rep 1,470 Posts Drives: 2013 E92 M3 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: League City, TX iTrader: (1) Garage List 2010 Porsche GT3 [0.00] 1988 Toyota 4Runner [0.00] 1995 Toyota T-100 4x4 [0.00] 2013 BMW M3 [0.00]	Rears require that you remove the axle shafts to get the bolt in and out. __________________ Stoptech 380mm/355mm \| PFC08 / Pagid RS-29 \| Akrapovic EVO - CF tips \| Benvo Tune \| MS UDP \| AA air filter \| MCS 2-way with 700/1000lb springs \| Solid bushings and adjustable links \| RD front swaybar \| Apex EC-7 18x10 square 275/35-18 NT01 \| Turner Race Studs \| GT4 Brake Cooling \| GT4 Power Steering Cooling \| Alekshop Oil Cooler \| Performance Steering Wheel \| \| CF Spoiler \| Varis System 1 Full CF Diffuser \| Extended Paddle Shifters \| Schroth Quick Fit Pro \| Turner Steering Rack Stops \| Vorshlag Camber Plates
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tlrid3r just another M3 514 Rep 1,150 Posts Drives: e92 M3 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: San Jose, ca iTrader: (6)	Thanks fall-line looks good. Yeah I have already replaced one with the piece of shit hotckins. I got no choice. __________________ ///M3... Don't want more power, Just want it to turn sharper one step closer each time. -Ohlins TTX Raceline, PolePostions seats, Akrapovic EVO, ARC-8, 1/2 Cage, Seat Delete, Stoptech BBK, solid Subframe and diff bushing, spherical bearing on everything.
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AriuSen Lieutenant Colonel 777 Rep 1,923 Posts Drives: Z4M Coupe Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (9)	Just a question. Im going to replace my h&r back to OEM front sway bar. I had a aftermarket adjustable end link to be used with the h&r. My question is, once I put the OEM back, should I put also OEM endlink? or leave the aftermarket? __________________ Instagram: ariusen26 Youtube: Track vids
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tlrid3r just another M3 514 Rep 1,150 Posts Drives: e92 M3 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: San Jose, ca iTrader: (6)	It would more difficult to adjust cross weight that way and most shops don't want to do it that way. My main concern is also that a few members have snap their rear RD sport bar for having them too far preloaded and once more force is applied at track they snap. So the rear is my main concern. __________________ ///M3... Don't want more power, Just want it to turn sharper one step closer each time. -Ohlins TTX Raceline, PolePostions seats, Akrapovic EVO, ARC-8, 1/2 Cage, Seat Delete, Stoptech BBK, solid Subframe and diff bushing, spherical bearing on everything.
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10-27-2015, 07:37 PM	#13
tlrid3r just another M3 514 Rep 1,150 Posts Drives: e92 M3 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: San Jose, ca iTrader: (6)	I'll look into it. __________________ ///M3... Don't want more power, Just want it to turn sharper one step closer each time. -Ohlins TTX Raceline, PolePostions seats, Akrapovic EVO, ARC-8, 1/2 Cage, Seat Delete, Stoptech BBK, solid Subframe and diff bushing, spherical bearing on everything.
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AriuSen Lieutenant Colonel 777 Rep 1,923 Posts Drives: Z4M Coupe Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (9)	anyone knows why KW clubsport only sends front enlinks and not the rear? isnt the rear suppose to be adjusted as well? __________________ Instagram: ariusen26 Youtube: Track vids
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surlynkid Major 115 Rep 1,470 Posts Drives: 2013 E92 M3 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: League City, TX iTrader: (1) Garage List 2010 Porsche GT3 [0.00] 1988 Toyota 4Runner [0.00] 1995 Toyota T-100 4x4 [0.00] 2013 BMW M3 [0.00]	If anyone has any doubts how to set up an E92 M3 to scream around the track, ask Greg S above. His M3 is an absolute terror on track. His lap times on A7 are just a smidge behind very capable drivers in a 997.2 GT3RS on R7. __________________ Stoptech 380mm/355mm \| PFC08 / Pagid RS-29 \| Akrapovic EVO - CF tips \| Benvo Tune \| MS UDP \| AA air filter \| MCS 2-way with 700/1000lb springs \| Solid bushings and adjustable links \| RD front swaybar \| Apex EC-7 18x10 square 275/35-18 NT01 \| Turner Race Studs \| GT4 Brake Cooling \| GT4 Power Steering Cooling \| Alekshop Oil Cooler \| Performance Steering Wheel \| \| CF Spoiler \| Varis System 1 Full CF Diffuser \| Extended Paddle Shifters \| Schroth Quick Fit Pro \| Turner Steering Rack Stops \| Vorshlag Camber Plates
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PrimeBMW Major 662 Rep 1,424 Posts Drives: E46 M3+S62, E92 M3 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Portland, OR iTrader: (0)	I just had my shop install the Bimmerworld end links yesterday. Apparently there was a bit of tension on the front sway bar because the car is lowered on MCS singles. The old oem end links were shot at 29,000 miles.
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