Fifth Gear tracks E93 M3 against C63 AMG

MI6 · 08-12-2008, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by T2x

Those mercedes are NOT built to be the best race cars. They are built to be a car for the upper class or for people whose jobs require them to drive around customers and impress them with their high class. The suspension of mercedes vehicles is designed for comfort more than handling. Do you think a realtor is going to be flying into turns and flooring it every chance they get? no. And when they hit a speed bump they don't want their kids flying.

The reality of BMW's is that they are not as comfortable and luxurious as a mercedes.

Mercedes are for people that like doing straight line races like on the freeway or at a red light. BMW's are for enthusiasts who also like a good deal of luxury.

Therefore, the mercedes is for all out luxury while the bmw is the best of both worlds. If you just want performance go buy a lotus.

That being said, all of these companies are simply doing what they have been since they were established. They all have firm holds over their respective sectors and there is no reason for them to change.

Ummm......not necessarily. Mags like TopGear have pointed out that the C63 ride (in comparo with M3,RS4,IS-F) is overly harsh and not very Merc like at all....

All in all who wouldn't want an open-top E93-hair blowing in the wind-V8 snarling sound all around you feel over an insulated sedan like the C63?

positiveions · 08-12-2008, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Sticky

There is much more to handling than body roll.

Tires yada yada yada, suspension yada yada yada. etc...

Reincarnated · 08-12-2008, 10:04 PM

Digg'n the M3 sound.

1º · 08-12-2008, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by rldzhao

a vert beat a sedan with a roof... bravo bmw!

it wasnt a race, the guy was just testing the cars to see which he liked better and would buy...

JEllis · 08-13-2008, 12:11 AM

I love the Bimmer sound!

Jackie · 08-13-2008, 01:36 AM

thx, tats very nice

booforty · 08-13-2008, 03:32 AM

The E93 M3 has much better handling and therefore feels and performs much quicker than the C63. Both very nice cars though

Wads · 08-13-2008, 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by PLAYON

I still wanna see the E90 M3 vs. the C63, for the love of all thats holy, I need to see this comparo. . .I've looked and looked, anyone got a link?

Try this one...... Best Motoring E90 Vs C63

http://www.mininova.org/tor/1589963

yashBMW · 08-13-2008, 05:10 AM

Coooooooooooool!

v1p3r · 08-13-2008, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by T2x

Those mercedes are NOT built to be the best race cars. They are built to be a car for the upper class or for people whose jobs require them to drive around customers and impress them with their high class. The suspension of mercedes vehicles is designed for comfort more than handling. Do you think a realtor is going to be flying into turns and flooring it every chance they get? no. And when they hit a speed bump they don't want their kids flying.

The reality of BMW's is that they are not as comfortable and luxurious as a mercedes.

Mercedes are for people that like doing straight line races like on the freeway or at a red light. BMW's are for enthusiasts who also like a good deal of luxury.

Therefore, the mercedes is for all out luxury while the bmw is the best of both worlds. If you just want performance go buy a lotus.

That being said, all of these companies are simply doing what they have been since they were established. They all have firm holds over their respective sectors and there is no reason for them to change.

It has been said over and over in more than one country's reviews that the M3 has the more forgiving suspension of the two. The Merc is being criticised for being "too much". Being uncontrollable and less composed at the limit and having a way too stiff suspension.

slipknot · 08-13-2008, 10:52 AM

thats good to hear from ronnie , haha , I dont think he was in trance at all or drunk I think he was honest

darkphantom · 08-13-2008, 11:37 AM

E93, all day every day

<3 SG + CR

KonigsTiger · 08-13-2008, 04:12 PM

Well, what is even more impressive is that the M3 is a vert, that does not handle as well as a regular coupe. I am impressed.

torredresen · 08-13-2008, 04:15 PM

I just really dont feel the Merc
Just doesnt like it would drive good, and IMHO is ugly, ugly²

Id choose a E93 any dat

ik999 · 08-13-2008, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by MI6

Ummm......not necessarily. Mags like TopGear have pointed out that the C63 ride (in comparo with M3,RS4,IS-F) is overly harsh and not very Merc like at all....

All in all who wouldn't want an open-top E93-hair blowing in the wind-V8 snarling sound all around you feel over an insulated sedan like the C63?

I'd rather have the e92 M3, thank you very much

DJ9 · 08-14-2008, 12:47 AM

Impressive to see the cab on the track, I like

NPinUK · 08-14-2008, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by BayerischeMotorenWerke

Like some snooker bitch knows anything about cars...LOL who gives a shit what he thinks.

Hes ranked no 1 in the world & I bet he knows more about cars than you do. The only bitch is you for saying summit like that.

Wads · 08-14-2008, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by booforty

Wads, I just posted this up in the UK section of e90post which is where all the UK E9x M3 owners are... Come and check us out!

http://www.e90post.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=22

Thanks! Is there a UK M3 specific section as well? Don't take this the wrong way but if its a BMW I'm only interested if its got an M badge on it and the UK section seems to be mainly non M related????

JamieA · 08-15-2008, 02:16 AM

For me the money shot was seeing his huge grin shortly after taking the wheel of the M3, that told us all we needed to know - no grinning in the AMG, and at the end of the day it is about fun and enjoyment, and that one scene said all that needed to be said.

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