335 vs M3

[ersin]

Originally Posted by HotLap

And if you go the DINAN route, it is still covered under warranty

It's covered under Dinan's warranty, not BMWs.

[mcorliss]

Originally Posted by m3larson

I have a brand new E92 and had a hard time getting away from a 335 today. We didnt ever get a chance to start from a dead stop but any time he would get near me i could not shake him. I thought My new M was much faster. At 45 - 60 MPH they arent. I only have 500 miles on my car.. maybe when its broken in.....

This is probably a repost but what the hell...

http://www.webridestv.com/showvideo.aspx?video=79736

[fonusbak]

Wow. Thanks for posting that. Very interesting. Not sure I'd swap my M3 for a 335 but you've got to be impressed by the Dinan engineers.

[335IAlpine]

Originally Posted by lucid

You sure won't be smoked by me in any kind of street drag race as I wouldn't race any car for real (all the way) at a stop light. Not worth risking lives over...

Funny, i just found a place down here that can mod my ECM for $400 to get an extra 60 HP and it is undetectable by BMW service techs. I am guessing that I will have 416 HP at the wheels when I'm done. I had my car dyno'd at the wheels and it produced 355HP. I'll keep you posted when I re dyno the car with the mod. I don't need to mod the exhaust either, but if I did...

[440hpe46]

Originally Posted by 335IAlpine

Funny, i just found a place down here that can mod my ECM for $400 to get an extra 60 HP and it is undetectable by BMW service techs. I am guessing that I will have 416 HP at the wheels when I'm done. I had my car dyno'd at the wheels and it produced 355HP. I'll keep you posted when I re dyno the car with the mod. I don't need to mod the exhaust either, but if I did...

You should get the flash, take it in for service, then comment on whether it's detectable or not, because BMW thinks it is...

[Vince@ V K Motorwerks]

The M3 is an awesome car. The 335i is an awesome car. A toyota Prius is an awesome car...a smart....ext...

my point being, to each his own.

[ihyln]

Originally Posted by CTN08

The Dinan stage 3 only have fmic and flash. A v3 or jbh2 with dp, intake and suspensions will walk a m3 all over the track and 1/4 mile.
BTW only a 5k upgrade not 15k like Dinan.

is there actual proof of this phenomenon?

Originally Posted by mcc3456

This is probably a repost but what the hell...

http://www.webridestv.com/showvideo.aspx?video=79736

Yeah I mean the M3 wins all their contests and then declares the Dinan the winner!

[kb335]

Originally Posted by ihyln

is there actual proof of this phenomenon?



Yeah I mean the M3 wins all their contests and then declares the Dinan the winner!

You're missing the point of the video buddy. A Dinan stage 3 with flash and FMIC got beat by a M3 by only a few tenth on the track and 1/4 mile. If they add DP, intake and KW-2 suspensions, for sure the 335 will kill the M3. A v3 or jb2h will shit on the M3 all day.

[ihyln]

I get it. Modded cars can beat M3s. If they have to add all that just to match the M3 then I see no point in spending that much in mods to have a half assed M3 without a warranty.

[ersin]

Originally Posted by kb335

You're missing the point of the video buddy. A Dinan stage 3 with flash and FMIC got beat by a M3 by only a few tenth on the track and 1/4 mile. If they add DP, intake and KW-2 suspensions, for sure the 335 will kill the M3. A v3 or jb2h will shit on the M3 all day.

Until they add the other mods and run them off again it's just speculation.

[440hpe46]

Originally Posted by kb335

You're missing the point of the video buddy. A Dinan stage 3 with flash and FMIC got beat by a M3 by only a few tenth on the track and 1/4 mile. If they add DP, intake and KW-2 suspensions, for sure the 335 will kill the M3. A v3 or jb2h will shit on the M3 all day.

There is a good chance that with extra mods, the 335 might, possibly, maybe, beat the M3 around the track...

Of course, to many, $10K+ is a lot to pay for 'maybe'...

And the 335 driver is praying that his car doesn't go into 'limp mode' on his second lap around the track...

[hellrotm]

Originally Posted by mcc3456

This is probably a repost but what the hell...

http://www.webridestv.com/showvideo.aspx?video=79736

LOL

$14,000 in Dinan parts and it is still lost every performance test.

[hellrotm]

335 coupe msrp - $41,800

m3 coupe msrp - $56,500

Difference $14,700



Yeah, put on your Procede, DPs, full exhaust, intake. There goes your warranty.

Add up those mods, don't forget the huge cost of a LSD.

And the huge cost of brake up-grade.

V3 - $1495
DP's - $900
Exhaust - $1500
Intake - $150
LSD - $2000
Brakes front/rear - $6,000
Coilovers - $1,300

Total - ~$13,345

Then there is install cost on top of that.

Not to mention if you want exterior mods and wheels.


Just about every modded 335i on E90 post, has some sort of body kit, like the M-tech kit. More money$$$$$$

It adds up for sure.



Even then you still don't get the interior bits in the M3, not to mention the M-drive and electronic damping control.

Also the Double Clutch Tranny, not even offered in the 335i.

The M3 is about refinement.


For $14,700 more the M3 is a BARGAIN, not to mention you actual have a warranty.

[icemang17]

I think the comparison between the M3 and the Dinan 400hp 335 was great....sure the 335 makes good #'s....but it just doesn't have the feel of the M3....

[ismelllikepoop]

keep telling yourself that and maybe, just maybe, it will come true

[hellrotm]

Originally Posted by CTN08

Yeah, put on your Procede, DPs, full exhaust, intake. There goes your warranty.

Add up those mods, don't forget the huge cost of a LSD.

And the huge cost of brake up-grade.

V3 - $1495
DP's - $500
Exhaust - $1500 DONT'NEED
Intake - $150
LSD - $2000 DON'T NEED
Brakes front/rear - $6,000 DON'T NEED
Coilovers - $1,300

Total - ~$13,345

TOTAL=$3500
With those mod only , the 335 will kill a m3 all day long

If you want to have the complete package of the M3, you will need all those mods. Any smart car enthusiasts knows that.

Why don't the 335i guys say they don't want their 335i to handle and just want straight line speed. This would kill the whole 335i vs. M3 argument.

If you want a straight line speed car, just buy a used Mustang and supercharge it.

Also I find it funny you deleted the rest of my post.

You know it is reality.

Originally Posted by ismelllikepoop

keep telling yourself that and maybe, just maybe, it will come true

Exactly

[ersin]

Originally Posted by CTN08

...
Again a stage3 dinan with flash and fmic(mid-power) almost beat a M3 on the track and 1/4 run.

Keyword highlighted.

[armyav8tor]

Guess which car won in my comparison?

clue:
I sold my 335i and ordered a M3.

[adamr]

[RCE]

Here in Portugal, we a make some test's with a M3 E92 vs 335d E92 chipuning and until reach 220Km/h, the 335d was always faster.
But this not mean that M3 is one of the gratest sportcars at the moment.
With the new DKG i'm sure that M3 will take advantage.

Regards,

[adamr]

[hellrotm]

Originally Posted by CTN08

Dude seriously...go enjoy your 328i. Why don't you tune your 328 to beat my 335i? Oh i forgot,you're afraid you'll void your 50k warranty on your lease car.

Like totally dude, yeah dude, seriously. Give it up kid.

Actually I don't even have the entry level 3-series anymore.

Too common.