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      03-31-2008, 12:07 PM   #1
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Edmunds C63 vs. M3 Sedan - another one in the bag!

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      03-31-2008, 12:23 PM   #2
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Seems like the C63 was criticized for being too raw, or too harsh. Said the M3 offered the choice of having a supple ride.

"The brutally stiff damping rates of this C63 with its AMG performance package can't hope to deliver the supple ride of the M3's multimode dampers. This AMG rides like an iron fist in an iron glove, and you have no other choice if you want the limited-slip differential, as the AMG options grouping says that if you want tire traction you must have suspension control, too. And with this much power on tap, the diff is a must.

The Performance package also includes a set of seats with side bolsters so pronounced that you have to swing your hips forward like you're twirling a hula hoop to avoid them as you clamber inside. These chairs are outstanding for high-speed canyon carving, but less so for daily use."

That's interesting because several people were initially critical of the new M3 for not being as "raw" as the previous E46.

The Merc's numbers are impressive though.

"Despite boasting similar power-to-weight ratios, the C63 runs notably quicker than the M3 sedan in a straight line. It clicks off the quarter-mile in 12.5 seconds at 113.7 mph, compared to the BMW's 12.9 seconds at 111.1 mph, an advantage of 0.4 second and 2.6 mph. Likewise, 60 mph comes up in 4.1 seconds in the Benz and 4.5 seconds in the Bimmer."


I loved this paragraph:

"The C63 is nevertheless a blast to drive hard on rotini-twisted roads, even if it might not be able to keep pace with the leaner M3 from point to point. For example, the C63 AMG's 68.6-mph effort through the slalom lags behind the M3's 71.8-mph performance by some margin. But if powersliding hooliganism is more your style, then the C63 is your choice, since it'll sustain a tail-out attitude around a corner until the steel cords show through the rear tires."
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E92 with the DCT should close the straight line performance gap maybe even beat the Merc
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E92 with the DCT should close the straight line performance gap maybe even beat the Merc
I don't know if it can close half a second.
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E92 with the DCT should close the straight line performance gap maybe even beat the Merc
Maybe. The C63 will be receiving a DCT too though.
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I am actually quite shocked the Merc would be harsher than the m3 in terms of ride quality. It rides rougher but can not keep pace with the m3 in the twisties! Great job bmw and edc!
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I am actually quite shocked the Merc would be harsher than the m3 in terms of ride quality. It rides rougher but can not keep pace with the m3 in the twisties! Great job bmw and edc!
It kept up with the M3 dead on at Hockenheim.
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It kept up with the M3 dead on at Hockenheim.
Hockenheim is a smooth race track with longer straights except for the staduim section. The Merc's power would be an advantage on a circuit like this, thus closing the handling advantage the m3 would have.
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i still dont see how 0-60 ranges from 4.1-4.8, these tests dont seem very reliable
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Maybe. The C63 will be receiving a DCT too though.
It will likely get MCT, but that's not a DCT.
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seems as if the sedan is the way to go , even over the coupe.
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I don't know if it can close half a second.
Thats not the best time the M3 has posted. We've seen 12.5-12.7 for the M3 if we take 12.7 as an established M3 quarter mile I have no problem seeing the DCT doing 12.5. But lets wait some more enough has been said already
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