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06-19-2011, 02:38 PM | #23 |
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Had a modded 335, now an M3. 335 had intake, exhaust, jb3 and i regularly ran race fuel and map 9
What I realized is that the 335 feels faster, but even with all those mods, my buddy and I would race and wed be neck and neck. So pretty much 335 feels faster but isnt actually any faster. The low end torque is nice but unless youre one of those people that just chills at 2krpm gear 6 and dont really care about shifting, youll really enjoy the m3 more. My driving style caters to always being above 4k rpm and constantly red lining and I love my m3 so much more than the 335. The 335 tapered off at 6k rpm and has that dead zone from 6-7k rpm. Id much rather be at 8400 than short shifting at 6k to stay in the power band |
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06-19-2011, 04:43 PM | #24 |
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Get a fukkin civic and mod the shit out of it! It will bet the crap out of any Modded 335 and non modded M3. Because that is what seems to be important to you. Torque and HP. All the factors point to one thing, you are probably still an adolescent and want cheap power. The M3 cannot comepete!
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06-19-2011, 05:27 PM | #25 |
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This subject has obviously been beaten to death and re-posted eleventy billion times, and every time people say "The 335 has more low end torque".
No one ever brings Gear Ratios and RPMs/Redline into the equation. http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=419634 |
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06-19-2011, 05:37 PM | #26 |
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I thought M3 would feel faster. It has vocal and relatively peaky engine whereas a 335 has a much flatter torque curve.
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06-19-2011, 05:43 PM | #27 | |
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One word: Boost. Does a lot for seat of pants feeling.
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06-19-2011, 05:46 PM | #28 |
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06-19-2011, 07:02 PM | #30 | |
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I wiil appreciate the high reving N/A engine cause i've already owned e46 m3 and you know what, i miss this crazy sound and instant throtle response,but anyway i'll buy a tune for 335 and after a while change it for a proper beast e92 m3 |
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06-20-2011, 01:19 PM | #31 | |
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But my Z4 dynoed at about 352 wtq and 349whp on a Dynojet with the Jb4 :P So it's not lacking in torque... that's for sure.
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06-20-2011, 03:39 PM | #34 |
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Just curious: could you clarify more on this?
The differences that I know of: 1. different leather 2. M steering wheel 3. M-DCT knob vs gear selector (or non-M DCT knob) on auto 4. M logo on stuff Are there any other significant differences? |
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06-20-2011, 09:47 PM | #37 |
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Who cares about engine torque? The M3 puts more torque to the ground in first gear than a 335 does, and this is what you actually feel. I'm sick of people talking about engine torque.
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06-20-2011, 09:56 PM | #38 |
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Once again, you are talking about ENGINE TORQUE. Rear wheel torque is not the same as the amount of torque in first gear. Multiply the amount of torque by the first gear ratio and rear end ratio in both cars the M3 will have more torque. The M3 has as much torque in first gear as c5 z06 corvette. Does the 335??? Doubt it.
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06-20-2011, 10:00 PM | #39 |
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http://forums.carmudgeons.com/showthread.php?t=23608
I misspoke, the M3 actually has more torque in first gear than a zo6, which is rated at 405 torque at the motor. This is the advantage of having horsepower, being able to mess with the gears. In the end, my M3 feels faster and is faster than a 335 because it puts more torque to the street in each gear than a 335. |
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06-20-2011, 10:26 PM | #42 | |
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I never go by what people feel, as that is very subjective. To calculate torque in a gear, you multiply engine torque X trans gear ratio X rear end ratio. The trans and rear end are torque multipliers. |
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