Blown motors, Rod Bearing failure S65 Registry.

aus · 12-31-2012, 12:45 PM

This one is new to me:

There's a bunch on YouTube:

There are a LOT more on YouTube. We only have a small percentage of owners who are members here. I'm sure there are people who don't notice the ticking or don't want to potentially label their car as damaged for resale value purposes, but this is best way to show BMW there is a problem if your motor blows. It's basically how the S54 guys had their engines fixed by BMW when a bunch of cases started showing up on the net.
PLEASE add to this thread if you know of other cases.

Here's a very nice compilation of engine failures broken down by state and year by senorfunkypants. http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=935368

If you're in California and your engine blew, check out this thread where the tuxblackedo got a buy back after the warranty expired by getting a lawyer involved: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=894665
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m3an · 12-31-2012, 12:52 PM

IMO this is NO WAY like s54 cover up issue and no need for worry. My car is 5 years old and runs great. Sure it makes noise, but they all do. As far as bearings are concerned, people like to think it's the bearings ala e46 m3, but there has been no proof at all that the bearings are any different in the newer 2013 cars. Also I think the problem lies in the bedplate/windage tray. As some cars have had repairs to the bedplate and been fine. Possible slightly misaligned or certain stresses during or after assembly causing them to fail. Only a few cars have really failed (throwing rods out blocks and such)..

Anyways, curious to see the responses

bigjae1976 · 12-31-2012, 04:56 PM

Weren't the E46 and early E9X issues more of a bearing clearance issue vs just crappy bearings?

DLSJ5 · 12-31-2012, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by m3an

IMO this is NO WAY like s54 cover up issue and no need for worry. My car is 5 years old and runs great. Sure it makes noise, but they all do. As far as bearings are concerned, people like to think it's the bearings ala e46 m3, but there has been no proof at all that the bearings are any different in the newer 2013 cars. Also I think the problem lies in the bedplate/windage tray. As some cars have had repairs to the bedplate and been fine. Possible slightly misaligned or certain stresses during or after assembly causing them to fail. Only a few cars have really failed (throwing rods out blocks and such)..

Anyways, curious to see the responses

Agreed, no doubt some guys have had issues and that's very unfortunate, but it's nothing like the S54.

aus · 12-31-2012, 06:08 PM

You guys take me too literally. What I mean is, BMW initially said the blown S54's were do to driver error, ie overreved. Then the SMG cars started blowing too and they still denied there was a problem.
If we have a list of bearing problems here, then BMW won't be able to say it's not an issue at all. The S54 was so bad, then essentially did a recall.

blankstar43 · 12-31-2012, 06:37 PM

i think this is a great idea, never hurts to be safe and document what failures there are just in case it gets out of hand

DLSJ5 · 12-31-2012, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by aus

You guys take me too literally. What I mean is, BMW initially said the blown S54's were do to driver error, ie overreved. Then the SMG cars started blowing too and they still denied there was a problem.
If we have a list of bearing problems here, then BMW won't be able to say it's not an issue at all. The S54 was so bad, then essentially did a recall.

I don't think your thread is a bad idea at all, I just don't see this as being on the same level that the S54 rod bearing issue was.

kerrit · 12-31-2012, 08:22 PM

S65 bearing issue is way overhyped - it's a very high revving V8 with tight tolerances, and given the production numbers it's probable for a few people to have problems

Vic311 · 12-31-2012, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by kerrit

S65 bearing issue is way overhyped - it's a very high revving V8 with tight tolerances, and given the production numbers it's probable for a few people to have problems

+1

BPMSport · 12-31-2012, 10:03 PM

Although these issues may be overhyped, I think it's great that aus put together a registry of motors that have had serious problems. Hopefully there won't be any to add to the list and if there are more failures it would be great to see them referenced here in the future.

aus · 01-01-2013, 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kerrit

S65 bearing issue is way overhyped - it's a very high revving V8 with tight tolerances, and given the production numbers it's probable for a few people to have problems

I agree with you and see your point, but tell me this. If you start hearing ticking from your engine, and the dealer says it's nothing, which thread are you going to go searching for as soon as you get home?

I know there were older threads on the ticking sound, but can't find them, so if anyone comes across one, please post them in this thread.

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schnell325 · 01-01-2013, 12:38 AM

This is a great thread. God forbid I ever have to post concrete info about the topic though!!

THE-FN-MAN · 01-01-2013, 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by schnell325

This is a great thread. God forbid I ever have to post concrete info about the topic though!!

+1

onnex · 01-01-2013, 09:41 AM

From someone who has the tick, thanks for putting this together.

///M Rakete · 01-01-2013, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Benvo

Although these issues may be overhyped, I think it's great that aus put together a registry of motors that have had serious problems. Hopefully there won't be any to add to the list and if there are more failures it would be great to see them referenced here in the future.

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VCMpower · 01-01-2013, 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m3an

IMO this is NO WAY like s54 cover up issue and no need for worry. My car is 5 years old and runs great. Sure it makes noise, but they all do. As far as bearings are concerned, people like to think it's the bearings ala e46 m3, but there has been no proof at all that the bearings are any different in the newer 2013 cars. Also I think the problem lies in the bedplate/windage tray. As some cars have had repairs to the bedplate and been fine. Possible slightly misaligned or certain stresses during or after assembly causing them to fail. Only a few cars have really failed (throwing rods out blocks and such)..

Anyways, curious to see the responses

Agreed. That last one with the pics and supposed "oil filter causing failure" did show an issue with only 1 main. Making me assume out of alignment or machining flaw.

VCMpower · 01-01-2013, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by schnell325

This is a great thread. God forbid I ever have to post concrete info about the topic though!!

Aren't you getting new bearings soon

US///M3 · 01-02-2013, 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kerrit

S65 bearing issue is way overhyped - it's a very high revving V8 with tight tolerances, and given the production numbers it's probable for a few people to have problems

Over hyped? This represents more documented blown motors than seen on the more produced N54/N55.

And The forum only represent a small fraction of M3 owners...

W/// · 01-02-2013, 08:53 AM

The 2 first videos don't even sound like the same issues to me? I've heard the loud ticking noise in person (very first video) and there is nothing subtle about it.

m3an · 01-02-2013, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by US///M3

Over hyped? This represents more documented blown motors than seen on the more produced N54/N55.

And The forum only represent a small fraction of M3 owners...

what the forum represents is a small limited number of onwers yes; but only the negative posts come through; No one posts, "hey my car runs fine" you only hear the negatives or poblems. Not too mention how many M3 are on the road w/out problems and that don't post on a forum at all. I think you're exaggerating the problem.

US///M3 · 01-02-2013, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m3an

what the forum represents is a small limited number of onwers yes; but only the negative posts come through; No one posts, "hey my car runs fine" you only hear the negatives or poblems. Not too mention how many M3 are on the road w/out problems and that don't post on a forum at all. I think you're exaggerating the problem.

How about the blown engines that arent reported because their owners were asked or dont post on the foruns? There are by far more N55's on the road than the S65 yet there more documented cases of blown s65's.

I know of another case on bimmerfest that was reported only because BMW NA denied warranty on a blown engine and accused the good Dr of overreving his DCT causing the engine failure.
Most people sign the BMW release, get a new engine and keep quiet. The low production s65 has more catastrophic engine failures than the N54 .

VCMpower · 01-02-2013, 12:33 PM

Can someone explain what the NClass motors and their failure/lack of failure rate has to do with the S65?

Quote:

Originally Posted by US///M3

How about the blown engines that arent reported because their owners were asked or dont post on the foruns? There are by far more N55's on the road than the S65 yet there more documented cases of blown s65's.

I know of another case on bimmerfest that was reported only because BMW NA denied warranty on a blown engine and accused the good Dr of overreving his DCT causing the engine failure.
Most people sign the BMW release, get a new engine and keep quiet. The low production s65 has more catastrophic engine failures than the N54 .

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aus Major General 875 Rep 9,025 Posts Drives: Odysse Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Seal Beach, CA iTrader: (10)	Blown motors, Rod Bearing failure S65 Registry. All these blown motors due to bearing problems has me VERY concerned now. Most people describe a ticking sound from 1,600 -2,000 RPM that's pretty subtle but present at idle. It was first thought that this mainly occurred to 2008 cars, but more lately, there have been a few 2010+ cars with the same issue and most with very low mileage. If your car crapped out (ie loss of power) on you WHILE DRIVING, PLEASE file a complaint with the NHTS here: https://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/Vehicl...nt/index.xhtml MAYBE, they can put some pressure on BMW to do something about this issue, like at least extend the warranty. LINK to a more detailed list by Assimilator1: https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...postcount=2514 I'd like to start a registry JUST IN CASE this problem starts to show up more and more as these cars show up in more numbers. My quick search shows these case. Please add any other cases you see here. I'm hoping this will show up on a Google search and more people out there will find this thread and add to it. I'm really hoping we don't have an S54 situation with our motors too. maicol76: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...lure+%2Bengine RenoE92M3: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...lure+%2Bengine zOOm: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...lure+%2Bengine MathewDavid: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...lure+%2Bengine Gatchaman: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...7&postcount=51 I LOVE MY M3: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...1&postcount=38 taleof2bricks: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...lure+%2Bengine DLSJ5: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...lure+%2Bengine Blown motor, but the same ticking sound many have described before the engine fails. armorrig: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...lure+%2Bengine Possible case here, but no follow-up. 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https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1669484 Kobaiyashi: https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1670660 kiquos: https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=430 ebay car with blown motor: https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...postcount=2478 ebay with blown motor: https://www.m3post.com/forums/showth...86615&page=113 Nugget main bearing: https://www.m3post.com/forums/showth...1153809&page=6 deansbimmer with 5 motors in the shop: https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...postcount=2467 shakeywarrior: https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=199 M3drop: https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1722921 Kelse92: https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...postcount=2518 deansbimmer 6 customers: https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...postcount=2520 Carlow: https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1732937 ThatM3guy: https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...postcount=2531 Alexand3r: https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1594746 diargon: https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1739454 jackmahoney (broken valve): https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1751543 MShift: https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...7&postcount=19 openroad9: https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1782082 kmberger8: https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...postcount=2572 NWRNRN21: https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1843740 jvictormp: https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...postcount=2624 lauz: https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1934693 steezye93m3: https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1928049 8lueM3: https://www.m3post.com/forums/showth...8#post28623708 This was one of the early cases I remember. I can't seem to find the thread here. This one is new to me: There's a bunch on YouTube: There are a LOT more on YouTube. We only have a small percentage of owners who are members here. I'm sure there are people who don't notice the ticking or don't want to potentially label their car as damaged for resale value purposes, but this is best way to show BMW there is a problem if your motor blows. It's basically how the S54 guys had their engines fixed by BMW when a bunch of cases started showing up on the net. PLEASE add to this thread if you know of other cases. Here's a very nice compilation of engine failures broken down by state and year by senorfunkypants. http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=935368 If you're in California and your engine blew, check out this thread where the tuxblackedo got a buy back after the warranty expired by getting a lawyer involved: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=894665 . __________________ Let me get this straight... You are swapping out parts designed by some of the top engineers in the world because some guys sponsored by a company told you it's "better??" But when you ask the same guy about tracking, "oh no, I have a kid now" or "I just detailed my car." or "i just got new tires." Last edited by aus; 07-04-2022 at 02:10 AM..
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12-31-2012, 12:52 PM	#2
m3an Banned 38 Rep 1,590 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: South Florida iTrader: (2)	IMO this is NO WAY like s54 cover up issue and no need for worry. My car is 5 years old and runs great. Sure it makes noise, but they all do. As far as bearings are concerned, people like to think it's the bearings ala e46 m3, but there has been no proof at all that the bearings are any different in the newer 2013 cars. Also I think the problem lies in the bedplate/windage tray. As some cars have had repairs to the bedplate and been fine. Possible slightly misaligned or certain stresses during or after assembly causing them to fail. Only a few cars have really failed (throwing rods out blocks and such).. Anyways, curious to see the responses
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12-31-2012, 04:56 PM	#3
bigjae1976 Major General 1412 Rep 7,976 Posts Drives: 11 E90 M3 Individual Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Houston, TX iTrader: (22) Garage List 2004 BMW M3 [9.00] 2011 BMW E90 M3 [10.00] 2013 BMW 328i [10.00]	Weren't the E46 and early E9X issues more of a bearing clearance issue vs just crappy bearings? __________________ 2018 F30 320iX Melbourne Red 2011 E90 M3 Monte Carlo Blue 2004 E46 M3 Imola Red 2000 E36/7 Z3 Steel Blue
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12-31-2012, 06:08 PM	#5
aus Major General 875 Rep 9,025 Posts Drives: Odysse Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Seal Beach, CA iTrader: (10)	You guys take me too literally. What I mean is, BMW initially said the blown S54's were do to driver error, ie overreved. Then the SMG cars started blowing too and they still denied there was a problem. If we have a list of bearing problems here, then BMW won't be able to say it's not an issue at all. The S54 was so bad, then essentially did a recall. __________________ Let me get this straight... You are swapping out parts designed by some of the top engineers in the world because some guys sponsored by a company told you it's "better??" But when you ask the same guy about tracking, "oh no, I have a kid now" or "I just detailed my car." or "i just got new tires."
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12-31-2012, 06:37 PM	#6
blankstar43 Lieutenant 50 Rep 596 Posts Drives: 2012 e92 M3 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Neverland iTrader: (3)	i think this is a great idea, never hurts to be safe and document what failures there are just in case it gets out of hand __________________ 2012 JZB/Fox Red M3 DCT -JZB reflectors, CF gills, gloss black grills
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12-31-2012, 08:22 PM	#8
kerrit Major 343 Rep 1,094 Posts Drives: Melbourne Red e90 M3 Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Bellevue, WA iTrader: (4) Garage List 2008 E90 M3 [0.00] 2014 M5 CP [0.00]	S65 bearing issue is way overhyped - it's a very high revving V8 with tight tolerances, and given the production numbers it's probable for a few people to have problems
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BPMSport BimmerPost Supporting Vendor 3361 Rep 7,533 Posts Drives: Harrop M3 / F10 M5 / F82 M4 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: SoCal iTrader: (9) Garage List 2000 BMW M5 [0.00] 1990 BMW 735i Turbo [0.00] 2008 BMW M3 [7.50] 2015 BMW M3 [0.00] 2015 BMW M5 [0.00]	Although these issues may be overhyped, I think it's great that aus put together a registry of motors that have had serious problems. Hopefully there won't be any to add to the list and if there are more failures it would be great to see them referenced here in the future. __________________ -----\| Like us on Facebook \| Instagram \|\| Tuning Information \| Remote Coding \|----- ----Visit us at www.BPMSport.com - Emotion. Driven. \| Toll Free: (888) 557-5133----
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01-01-2013, 12:38 AM	#12
schnell325 Bored at work.... 861 Rep 5,332 Posts Drives: 2016 F82 M4 GTS//2022 M235iGC Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Comox Valley iTrader: (8)	This is a great thread. God forbid I ever have to post concrete info about the topic though!! __________________ Grey Matter:2008 E92 M3:608/425. SG/PS SOLD! Dark Matter:2015 F80 M3:495/505. SOLD! Anti Matter :2016 F82 M4 GTS What next?!? A 2022 M235i GC- I must be getting old
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01-01-2013, 09:41 AM	#14
onnex Major 160 Rep 1,169 Posts Drives: 2015 F80 M3 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Palo Alto, CA iTrader: (16) Garage List 2011 E92 M3 [9.26]	From someone who has the tick, thanks for putting this together. __________________ 2015 MG F80 M3 \| H & R Sport Springs \| M Performance Diffuser \| 20" DPE SP-SC 5 \| IND Matte Black Cosmetic Package \| *More coming soon*
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01-02-2013, 08:53 AM	#19
W/// Lieutenant General 7241 Rep 12,218 Posts Drives: F87 M2C, E92 M3, E36 M3, Z4MR Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: SC iTrader: (13)	The 2 first videos don't even sound like the same issues to me? I've heard the loud ticking noise in person (very first video) and there is nothing subtle about it. __________________ Current: 19 F87 M2C / 08 E92 M3 / 07 E85 Z4M Roadster / 99 E36 M3
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