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There you go again putting words in my mouth, My God, I don't hate on you at all, but you are extremely defensive Andrew, the fact is we just simply disagree, just because I think the Vortech is a better unit, does not mean I'm hating on you, and yes some of things you've posted here are nonsense, but that does not mean I'm hating on AA and their kit whatsoever.
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11-02-2012, 08:00 PM | #134 | |
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You talk pom poms, I talk sledge hammers. We will agree to disagree.
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11-02-2012, 08:05 PM | #135 | |
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What I don't get is why are you so mad and why are you getting further into a pissing match of something that you're not even a part of. So one car lost to another, big deal. Do you know every single detail why that car lost? Maybe he forgot to take out the user manual from the glove box to save 4lbs. Maybe the tune wasn't running right, maybe he had a batch of bad gas. Who gives a shit. Why are you so deeply involved in this. What do you have to prove that one car loses to another. Let it go. BTW In my opinion, not everything is about above 6800rpm. You (and everyone else) spends less than 0.01% above 6800rpm in your daily drive. Something to think about. |
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11-02-2012, 08:05 PM | #136 |
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Lmao, I was asking you to put the pom poms down because all you are doing is cheerleading for your friend who you sell kits for, which is totally fine, but you're' not adding anything of substance here. I'm not sure what the sledge hammer reference was for, please elaborate.
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11-02-2012, 08:13 PM | #138 |
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Fact is we do not raise our rev limiter so mid range power is more important in our situation.
I have driven a couple Vortech e36's and e46's and I do not like how they respond compared to our hks/rotrex kits. Its my opinion based on experience with those engines. Maybe you should drive an AA car and let us know what you think? |
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11-02-2012, 08:15 PM | #139 | |
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Nice one! Exactly the comment I made earlier( In less words ) but it appears some on here need it all spelled out or it has no substance. LOL
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I totally agree most people aren't at WOT all the time, ALL of the kits are very drivable, in any situation, even my VT3 with a built motor drives like stock. But when we add power to the car, for the most part one thinks about WOT 100% of the time in terms of results and on the S65 ~6800 to redline, going through the gears is where it matters.
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Is there one is Socal? The Vorsteiner car?
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11-02-2012, 08:55 PM | #144 | |
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-Yes we lowered the rpm to 8100. Our power band is lower like I was trying to explain to you so 8100 is perfect for these blowers. -They might have the records but I can bet you would enjoy driving around our cars more. We made 450whp on the last e36 we did and that thing is super scary. -I believe that car was sold. Last edited by SflBimmer8484; 11-03-2012 at 05:08 PM.. |
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No they don't. Many times people go WOT, most of the time even if they go WOT they are midrange in the revs, and not above 6800. Many people press their pedal half way sometimes ... you should try that. Quote:
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11-02-2012, 09:42 PM | #146 |
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So to sum up the thread:
“My supercharger is better then yours” “No mine is better than yours” “Mine goes .0001 seconds quicker at 8314.7672 RPM” “HA!! ..mine is .0002 seconds quicker at 8316.2271 RPM.. I win" Grow up children. |
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Not at all. My point was that not everyone who buys a supercharger is buying a supercharger ONLY for the reason that it is super fast at WOT beyond 6800RPM. I just don't like ignorant people who don't see another point of view and portray their view onto others. I don't even own one.
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If you don't believe me, maybe this vid will help, look at the RPM gauge after each shift - Quote:
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Of course you are not at WOT all time but I'm talking about how the blowers perform and yes at WOT ONLY, not going to get groceries, because cleary people don't add power to their car to do that. If you want to drive fast or go to the dyno or the track, or an airstrip event to see how fast your car is or how it performs, you are at WOT. The other 97% of the time you're really not enjoying the full potential of the supercharger, for the most part anyway as it isn't even in boost, it's like driving the car NA, so why would someone add a supercharger to mainly do that, it's totally irrelevant in terms or performance.
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What I don't like is people who put words in others mouths and spin things in ridiculous ways in an attempt to supplement their flimsy argument and at the same time have no experience with what is being discussed, then they come across as if they have some sort of moral high ground in the discussion.
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I'm pretty sure that the Vortech setups enjoyed driving their cars in all situations as well. I think you guys did much more for the E36 while others didn't, that is good power on that engine, nicely done. If there's a car in socal let me know.
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Apparently you dont either. Most people who put them on enjoy the kit just as much in daily driving as they do at redline shifting. I guess since I dont own a kit I dont know much about them. But I know for a fact if I ever wanted to get a SC kit, I could care less if my car made 25whp less between 680 - redline than another kit because I dont live at a 1/4mile track, I value my driving priviledges. For me (and Im sure a few others on here) there are other criteria for wanting a SC - passing power, added hp, tq, the feeling of acceleration and maybe someday circuit tracking the car. Things that I would consider also would be reliability, reputation, proven track record and support. Apparently for you its a whole set of different criteria, and it shows in your sig, you are constantly chasing higher hp and faster 60-130#s. And whatever rocks your boat doesnt bother me one bit. But I just want you to know, whatever happens between 6800-redline is not even close the sole reason why people buy and install SC kits on the M3. Thats it. |
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As far as enjoying the car in all aspects, of course one should take that into account, I never said otherwise, there is no point if you can't still enjoy the car in all aspects, but there you go again inferring something that is completely a hunch on your part, or as if I literally said nothing else matters, lol. You cleary have little to no ability to comprehend and understand things about these blowers and why people for the most part bolt them on their cars. You take everything in a literal sense and generalize rather than making a conscious effort to understand the specific point that is being made and like most that resort to superficial responses, you bring up what's in the signature, lol. Yes I'm done discussing this with you.
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What your saying is understandable but really highly unlikely that some one would go in their pockets and pull out their hard earned money to support their passion and go out and purchase the most over priced supercharger kit available that delivers the least amount of power .... Step out the box and understand what I just said ! That torque you speak of is nonsense and is not worth the money's !!! Bro ... Stay away from supercharging cars especially this platform and go buy yourself a torque monster to go pick up peanuts at your local A&P and you'll save a heap of money...... I can't believe I'm reading such nonsense ....... |
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