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I sold every single bit of mod in my car with the EXCEPTION of these Bilsteins. During time of OEM install, the rear OEM shocks with 40K miles when compressed would not pop up in time. This explains why I felt the car had little rebound on track and as @richbot also recently posted about the OEM shocks. Anyways, the Bilsteins were sold and the owner was kind enough to let me refund his money (he was not pleased but understood where I was coming from). I put the Bilsteins back on the car with now stock springs and the car does sit a tad higher. Noticeable and prolly even lost a bit of camber too from the higher height (using logic as I didnt get it aligned after). Is the ride better than the OEM from what I can remember? Absolutely. None of riding on bumpstop etc. The front shaft is 'fat' (no measurement but you can tell right away). The stock shocks/struts are significantly lighter no doubt since its aluminum. I have been thinking of buying Eibach springs back and putting it with this setup as the car was absolutely amazing with that setup, camber plates, front only bar (back then it was stock power too when I would track it with RA1 and brake pads clocking 2:11 at the Glen, 2:09 at VIRs telling laptimes only because those who track has some data point that the suspension was awesome on an otherwise stock car). But 99% I will keep it now with stock springs. If you are not compulsive about hey my car is high etc. you are fine with stock springs but if you are going to do it once, get it with Eibach. FYI I had it tuned with the ZCP dynamic shock mode where the fimest setting was not static stiff and was very very happy with the setup. Lastly, I had a set of 17*10 wheels with AD08R 295/18 tires mounted in the FRONT and with no spacer it cleared so the strut design is not prodtruding either. Cant go wrong. I would NOT recommend anyone getting OEM ones new. Save the money get these as the rear OEM shocks lose rebound very quickly. This is on non ZCP I cant comment on the ZCP OEM shocks. Lutfy PS: I swapped my Eibach for Swifts later and it was too firm for the street (DC roads are horrible) and I never got chance to track it properly as I got an FRS for track duty. However, Eibachs were plenty good for track, I thought Swifts would be a nice upgrade but for street I didnt like the drive. Ride height was very comparable to Eibachs too. |
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lutfy I hope you realize you aren't going to heaven anymore due to not tracking the M3... just sayin'
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04-11-2018, 11:35 AM | #180 | |
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04-12-2018, 12:42 AM | #181 | |
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I was driving around this week convincing myself that the stock shocks work well and all I really needed was fresh ones. But now Lutfy comes back with these comments and I realize I just have to put in my order and wait until Bilstein works their way to my position on the list some many months from now.... The one advantage to being of the age where I'm half gray and slightly balding is that I can have patience ... I ran across a thread in an E46 forum where someone called it "Vitamin B12" as a good recipe for health and happiness of your M3
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04-12-2018, 09:38 PM | #183 | |
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Note that the standard non-EDC HD dampers are on backorder but the EDC HDs look to be available. |
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The front bar helps. I am no engineer but stiffening the front helped put the power down as there was less lean in the corners. Richbot explained it well in one of his posts. Front swaybar, camber plate, Eibach springs and Bilstein shocks with R Comps (and 2 piece PFC rotors) is all I had and the car was just about 'right'. Engine mods came after but I never got a chance to track it as I got the FRS. Lutfy |
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Any update on measurements?
I’d love to know the height/rake of B6+Dinan versus OE ZCP (and driving characteristics). Anybody been on both? |
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I have a full set of these BNIB I'm looking to offload if anyone is interested. I was planning on installing them this spring but I am getting rid of my car. PM me if interested and I'll send some pictures.
Link to my sale thread is here: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...light=bilstein Last edited by Mitten3; 05-14-2018 at 09:39 AM.. |
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Quick question for those that have installed B6 EDC front struts (and lowering springs)...Did you get/shorten the strut mounts/hats a la Dinan???
I'm getting ready to install the fronts with Eibach springs...Should I turn down the center support 10mm while I have them out? TIA -Mark in St. Louis |
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How's this compare to Malek's H&R lowering springs mod for the ZCP?
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I just installed the rears. My ZCP EDC rears were really dead. You can definitely feel the difference but I'm bird dogging getting the fronts, and have several vendors looking to how a pair of fronts. For anyone who watches the install video, my advice is to definitely disconnect the rear lower control arm so you can install the shock or you will have a bear of a time getting it in.
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This set was picked up used about 20k miles ago with 20k reported miles. I have not taken the fronts off yet as I'm waiting for the B6 EDC fronts which are supposed to be available in late May/Early June but the rears were very easy to compressed. The Bilsteins, no way you would could compress or keep them compressed.
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Just scored the EDC B6 fronts. They should be in the next week. Definitely looking forward to whole package.
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I will definitely share those. The rear end feels less crashy over irregularities but I haven't done any events on them yet. I'll have the fronts in before I do. I'll know real quick how they compare in the next 30 days.
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OK -- here is my initial thoughts. I installed the rears last weekend, and had the fronts installed today as something came up that got in my way timewise. I feel the rears are a huge improvement over the underdamped OEM units, especially when the are worn. I can definitely tell you the rear was far more planted on irregularly pothole worn surfaces even when pushed, and I'd definitely say they beat the OEM ZCP EDC rears, but are admittedly a bit of a PITA to install. The online video does not show you needing to drop the lower control arm to get the shock in but that's the ticket.
As for the fronts which went in today, they really raised ride height probably 7-8/10" over the worn OEM fronts. I was aware of this as it's been discussed here but this is more than I expected. The ride/handling over the worn OE fronts is much better but i'm mildly concerned about change of rake placing more weight on the rears, the lost of front negative camber from raising up, etc. For those who are looking for aesthetics, I get the disappointment. That's not a concern for me and in fact will probably keep my front bumper cover from scraping as I run 18" wheels. I understand the OE units start with 100 psi and go downhill from there, and the B6's start with 300 psi to prevent initial cavitation. I suspect they will settle some (not so much springs but the stuts pressure) but this may be a learning process. For those concerned about looks, I could see running OE fronts with B6 EDC rears. Edit -- I'd really suggest anyone considering these specifically read through this thread, but look at post 102 with the quote from Bilstein rep and 104. What I'm seeing is very consistent with that description. I feel confident it will settle a little bit, be at at original spec ZCP which my car may never have been during my ownership since I bought used, and lack of sag. Looking at 4.5 years of photos, the front definitely is progressively lowering height over the years.
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