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      02-17-2015, 02:51 AM   #89
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Thank you for this! One of the best threads ever. Long live the S65.
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      02-18-2015, 08:12 AM   #90
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Kudos to OP for epic post.

The info about racing applications of the S65 is staggering. Just wow.

If engines could be envious, there would be a lot of it out there.
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      03-14-2015, 02:42 PM   #92
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Original post updated with Superstars Series/EuroV8 Series M3 race cars

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      03-23-2015, 09:22 AM   #93
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Too bad about those emissions standards. It would have been amazing to see what BMW would have done with an iteration of the S65B44 from the GTS and CRT in the F8x. Now that would have been something special.
Very good idea. The 4.4 is an amazing runner. Extremely free and smooth, even by BMW standards.
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      03-23-2015, 03:55 PM   #94
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Too bad about those emissions standards. It would have been amazing to see what BMW would have done with an iteration of the S65B44 from the GTS and CRT in the F8x. Now that would have been something special.
Very good idea. The 4.4 is an amazing runner. Extremely free and smooth, even by BMW standards.
You don't happen to be the Texas owner who imported the only CRT to the U.S., are you?
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      03-23-2015, 04:29 PM   #95
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Yep.
We are an official Approved Vehicle. Permanently enshrined.
http://www.nhtsa.gov/cars/rules/import/
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Yep.
We are an official Approved Vehicle. Permanently enshrined.
http://www.nhtsa.gov/cars/rules/import/
TXDOT is happy, too.
Can I be your new best friend? I'll do whatever you ask, just let me come over and see her in the flesh.
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      03-24-2015, 08:35 AM   #97
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Can I be your new best friend? I'll do whatever you ask, just let me come over and see her in the flesh.
Lol!

Definitely. You are welcome to spend some time behind the wheel. Please let me know the next time you're in Texas (or close?) and you're welcome to drop your butt into the driver's seat. The dozen or so people who've spent a few minutes in the car have all come away shaking their heads.

Couple of things ...
- you do have to literally drop into the seat, as the thigh bolsters are high and firm
- you do have to work with a very stiff suspension
- you do have to be pretty alert, as the car responds quickly
- bring a camera, as it looks pretty good in person

Let me know ...
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      03-24-2015, 10:07 AM   #98
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Lol!

Definitely. You are welcome to spend some time behind the wheel. Please let me know the next time you're in Texas (or close?) and you're welcome to drop your butt into the driver's seat. The dozen or so people who've spent a few minutes in the car have all come away shaking their heads.

Couple of things ...
- you do have to literally drop into the seat, as the thigh bolsters are high and firm
- you do have to work with a very stiff suspension
- you do have to be pretty alert, as the car responds quickly
- bring a camera, as it looks pretty good in person

Let me know ...
PM incoming...
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Got it.
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Yep.
We are an official Approved Vehicle. Permanently enshrined.
http://www.nhtsa.gov/cars/rules/import/
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      04-21-2015, 03:11 AM   #101
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Original post updated with latest Z4 GTLM victory at the TUDOR United SportsCar Championship / Long Beach Grand Prix from a few days ago.
A great victory for BMW Team RLL

Moment of victory begins at 1:29:45

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      04-21-2015, 08:28 AM   #102
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awesome race, let's hope they don't restrict the intake further for the next race or add more weight. do the sanctions not realize the competitors are vettes and ferraris?
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UPDATE:
Added specs on Z4 GT-cars (P65B40) prior to 2011 season (attached FIA homologation sheets)
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Please see original post.
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ABSTRACT:
I came across more information regarding the P65B40 engines used in the Z4 GT(3) cars prior to the 2011 Season & Official FIA documents showing that they share the same bore & stroke as well as design as the S65.
This contrasts to previous ambiguity within the community that suggested the P65B40 was derived from the P60B40 from the E46 M3 GTR.
The P60B40, as far as i know from my own research, was a clean sheet design not based on any production engine (rumors suggest S62 but it is not true) & the P65B40 in the Z4 GT cars, based on this evidence was derived from the S65, not P60.

However, this newfound information only shows that the P65B40 in the Z4 race car is a modified S65, but still leaves uncertain about the relation with the engine in the M3 GT2 (which incidentally also has a P65).

IS THE P65 IN THE Z4 GT3 & THE P65 IN THE M3 GT2 RELATED? & TO THE S65?
I've come across a multitude of sources describing the P65 in the M3 GT2.
Some sources (Turner) say it is a further development of the P60 from the M3 GTR, while others (Motorsport.com, Racecar Eng.) say it is based on the S65B40 & list bore & stroke as identical to the S65.
We now know the P65B40 and the P65B44 in the Z4 GT cars are derived from the S65, which makes the case for the M3 GT2 even stronger, but I have yet to come across an absolute concrete source.
If someone with inside knowledge from BMW or a racing team can chime in, i'd greatly appreciate it. Any other updates, corrections, etc. are welcome but please provide credible source(s); i'd like to keep this thread as academically accurate as possible.

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Engine until 2010 Season: BMW P65B40 4.0L (3999cc) V8 (Motorsport engine based on S65B40 from E9X M3; same basic engine block but with dry-sump lubrication, see attachment)
Engine from 2011 Season: BMW P65B44 4.4L (4361cc) V8 (Motorsport engine based on S65B44 from M3 GTS; dry-sump lubrication)
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This was excellent. Thank you OP
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UPDATE: Added 2012 Silverstone Britcar 24-Hour champion, the S65 powered E46 M3 "GTR" race car campaigned by MP Motorsport/JCAM. Please see original post for full details. Preview below:

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UPDATE: Jan. 27 2016

Added driving impressions of the Z4 GT3 from Greek DRIVE Magazine.

See below and join the discussion on the video's dedicated thread.

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Update: 01-30-2016, added track footage of Aquila CR1 mid-engined tube chassis race car with S65 motor @ 10,000 RPM.


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