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Yes, the e92 335i had overheating issues as well. Other cars like the 370z too... but the Civic Type R is advertised as a track car - the main selling point is the fast lap time on track. You'd figure Honda engineers would place more thought into the cooling off the car. Instead they shipped a half-baked product figuring most buyers would never track their cars. The M3s (E92) have no heat issues out on track. I can drive all day in 110+ degree heat on stock cooling and it is fine.
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The M3?
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I really think car companies need to step up and make their cars more reliable on track rather than just advertise big numbers (horsepower and/or lap times).
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“The good lap time” of the Type R is done with semislicks, 50kg weight reduction, and a pro driver, with suspension specifically tuned to Nordschleife. Put the same semislicks and pro driver on M3, you will see similar/better lap times.
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Also, a 2.0T 4 cylinder camaro 1le with only 275 hp lapped VIR in about the same time as the m3. |
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I'm putting a deposit down for a 2019 CTR in sonic gray
Will be a fun DD
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A Ford over a Honda !?
lol
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Yes a Ford over a Honda...a Ford that is built in Germany.
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VIR is a different track then when the E92 was tested on almost 10 years ago. Its been repaved and is quite a bit more faster. Also on much better tire technology vs. the older ContiSportcontact 3 or Mich PS2s. Dave
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It's comparing apples to oranges. What makes the E92 M3 so great is the fact that it is a track beast, yet an elegant and comfortable daily driver. The feel of the leather, the carbon fiber bits, the machined wheels, all form together a beautiful car that shines just as well on a grocery run as it does on the track.
This is something you will not get with the CTR. While it may be quicker around the track, it is still a Honda Civic. It is a whole different breed and class of vehicle. I digress, it all comes down to what you prioritize in a car. If track speed and gas mileage trump all else, perhaps the CTR is the right car for you. If design, quality, and engine is most important, stick with the M3. Figure out what you want out of a car, and then go towards the one that fulfills those needs. Personally, I would never consider selling my car for the CTR for the simple fact that it will feel like a step backwards. A car is an extension of self, and when I am behind the wheel of my M3 I just feel fantastic. The CTR will never be able to match that pleasure no matter how quick it is on paper. |
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They don't directly compare because one is FWD and other RWD—- however both are fantastic grocery getters and handle with sublime feedback in day to day driving.
'19 CTR will be added to stable. I'm finished with the ridiculously overpriced 3 series that now cost as much as M3s of recent descent. On the waiting list as of today for the 2019 update: 3100 lb 306hp - 295ft/lb 6 speed
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I'll seriously consider a CTR in the next year when it comes time to let go of my M3. Great car. To all those who say it's just a Honda, the same was said about the Integra Type R which is considered one of the all time greats.
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how much are you willing to pay to play like is that 3-5sec difference is worth it? like when things break parts and labor will be a factor on how much you can afford it to have it running..if winning is winning go for m3 and if your satisfied to just keep up with them then ctr is for you...ive always wanted a type r but in cali the car scene is bad right now that mostly my evo and s2000 would get a state ref lol so i went for m3 so i would be out of the cops radar..
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The 2019 CTR is on the Honda site now....
Note the touchscreen now has a vol. knob
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Can you expand on that thought please?
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