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      10-05-2019, 10:17 AM   #1211
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Those times have not been replicated by other magazines. Besides, those times are a little fast for its power/weight ratio. I mean if you're the only who could obtain those numbers but others could not, then most likely others are more accurate.

For example, MotorWeek did 12.8 sec 1/4 although their time tends to be higher vs. other publication, but a fair number would be 12.5, NOT 12.0 flat. Also I've seen a couple of vid where they drag race the Supra vs. a Mustang GT and they are basically neck and neck, and I know for a fact that the Mustang is no where near 12.0 1/4.
Ok. I didn't they were any. I simple replied with an example when you ask "I still haven't seen anyone could do 12.0 sec 1/4". Also Toyota has never said the car could do the 1/4 mile in 12 sec flat, so let's please stop spreading false info.
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      10-05-2019, 12:07 PM   #1212
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Ok. I didn't they were any. I simple replied with an example when you ask "I still haven't seen anyone could do 12.0 sec 1/4". Also Toyota has never said the car could do the 1/4 mile in 12 sec flat, so let's please stop spreading false info.
I don't think I said directly that "Toyota claimed ...". I was implying their marketing department was juicing up the number through a couple of vid from a third party. You can't be naive to think Toyota had nothing to do with it. The timing was too much of a coincidence. Just right after the Supra was released, you got a vid that did 12.0 1/4 but then nobody was able to replicated that once the Supra was released to the general public.
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      10-05-2019, 12:59 PM   #1213
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I don't think I said directly that "Toyota claimed ...". I was implying their marketing department was juicing up the number through a couple of vid from a third party. You can't be naive to think Toyota had nothing to do with it. The timing was too much of a coincidence. Just right after the Supra was released, you got a vid that did 12.0 1/4 but then nobody was able to replicated that once the Supra was released to the general public.
We had several staff members on the Supra forum attend the VA press review event and none of them has said anything about what you are implying. They had a video Q&A session w/ Tada and Toyota left them alone to review and test drive the car as they pleased. We all know drivers, road conditions, weather etc plays a role with any car as explained by CarWOW in another comparison video where they timed the Zupra at 12.5 sec. We can keep going back and forth all day, but the only thing officially put out by Toyota is the press release, everything else is hearsay and speculation.
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We had several staff members on the Supra forum attend the VA press review event and none of them has said anything about what you are implying. They had a video Q&A session w/ Tada and Toyota left them alone to review and test drive the car as they pleased. We all know drivers, road conditions, weather etc plays a role with any car as explained by CarWOW in another comparison video where they timed the Zupra at 12.5 sec. We can keep going back and forth all day, but the only thing officially put out by Toyota is the press release, everything else is hearsay and speculation.
12.5 1/4 may be possible but no way 12.0 1/4 under any condition unless the car was juiced up by Toyota.
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      10-05-2019, 01:15 PM   #1215
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12.5 1/4 may be possible but no way 12.0 1/4 under any condition unless the car was juiced up by Toyota.
Same Zupra used by Carwow with different times.

12.1 sec


12.8 sec
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      10-05-2019, 01:20 PM   #1216
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Same Zupra used by Carwow with different times.

12.1 sec


12.8 sec
Maybe that's why it's called CarWow . Maybe there'll be a CarBoom that can do sub 12.0. Anyway, I got no skin in the game.
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Maybe that's why it's called CarWow . Maybe there'll be a CarBoom that can do sub 12.0. Anyway, I got no skin in the game.
I donít really understand your points here, no where has Toyota said 12.0 so I donít see why the car not hitting 12.0 is worth mentioning.
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So youíre basically saying all fake vents on all cars are a good thing, because they have the potential to be real vents if you cut them open??
Not at all.. He is saying that wether or not the ducting is there when you pop out the vent is irrelevant because a real vent can be made without destroying a new factory hood and paint job
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Not at all.. He is saying that wether or not the ducting is there when you pop out the vent is irrelevant because a real vent can be made without destroying a new factory hood and paint job
So, in other words, a justification that works for fake vents on any car.
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So, in other words, a justification that works for fake vents on any car.
Nope. Itís a justification for Tada Sanís statement that they can be made functional
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I just think there's a lot more to the story besides Toyota cancelling his warranty on a steering rack because tune. For most of these YouTube people there's ALWAYS more to the story than meets the eyes.

Wouldn't put it pass anyone of these YouTube guys to actually twist the story around to get a few more clicks, IMO. I recall some Tuber douche getting caught red-handed by a few motorcycle guys when he was doing burn-outs in his Lambo on a BUSY MOUNTAIN ROAD and nearly side-swiped a couple of riders. One of his burn-outs came within INCHES of hitting a motorcyclist head-on.

My personal experience with most of these "personalities" are they're all douches in real life and whatever it is that they do, getting clicks is the first and foremost priority. So believe nothing, question everything is my motto when it comes to videos like this.

They offer nothing more than entertainment IMO.
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Nope. Itís a justification for Tada Sanís statement that they can be made functional
Well, then I'm curious what the difference is. Most fake vents can be cut behind the vent. It's an obvious b.s. statement by Tada San.
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Well, then I'm curious what the difference is. Most fake vents can be cut behind the vent. It's an obvious b.s. statement by Tada San.
There isn't a difference, that is the point. It is an obvious statement that he isn't dealing with bs of others. He also said if you don't like the B58 then the owners can swap it out themselves instead of wasting him time convincing internet haters how good the B58 is.
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The onslaught of the Supra vids on YouTube is hilarious. Follows the exact same pattern.
Video 1: I pick up my 2020 Supra! It's amazing!
Video 2: Catless downpipe on my Supra! It's insane!!!!
Video 3: My Supra is already getting a tune!!! Insane numberzzzz!!!!!!!
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Wow, that was damn close!
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There isn't a difference, that is the point. It is an obvious statement that he isn't dealing with bs of others. He also said if you don't like the B58 then the owners can swap it out themselves instead of wasting him time convincing internet haters how good the B58 is.
Then why are you even arguing? I told another person that you can't just "pop out" the vents without cutting, and they're just like fake vents on any other car. Now you're responding to that conversation without anything new to add, yet somehow trying to still argue.
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Wow, that was damn close!
I donít recall where I heard it, but someone told me that he was unapologetic once he left the scene.

Still think that biker lady could have totally kicked his ass. Alas, the likes of Dan Bilzerian and the Alex Choiís of the world are far more common in this ďlook at meĒ social media world than it used to be, thatís for sure.
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I just think there's a lot more to the story besides Toyota cancelling his warranty on a steering rack because tune. For most of these YouTube people there's ALWAYS more to the story than meets the eyes.

Wouldn't put it pass anyone of these YouTube guys to actually twist the story around to get a few more clicks, IMO. I recall some Tuber douche getting caught red-handed by a few motorcycle guys when he was doing burn-outs in his Lambo on a BUSY MOUNTAIN ROAD and nearly side-swiped a couple of riders. One of his burn-outs came within INCHES of hitting a motorcyclist head-on.

My personal experience with most of these "personalities" are they're all douches in real life and whatever it is that they do, getting clicks is the first and foremost priority. So believe nothing, question everything is my motto when it comes to videos like this.

They offer nothing more than entertainment IMO.
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Then why are you even arguing? I told another person that you can't just "pop out" the vents without cutting, and they're just like fake vents on any other car. Now you're responding to that conversation without anything new to add, yet somehow trying to still argue.
I responded to your assumption that someone thinks fake vents are a good thing. I am arguing that that is a poor assumption based off what the user said.
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I donít recall where I heard it, but someone told me that he was unapologetic once he left the scene.

Still think that biker lady could have totally kicked his ass. Alas, the likes of Dan Bilzerian and the Alex Choiís of the world are far more common in this ďlook at meĒ social media world than it used to be, thatís for sure.
I would have been tempted to put that video in the hands of the police.
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I would have been tempted to put that video in the hands of the police.
What I cannot understand is how guys like Choi, DDE, Parker, and that guy on the East Coast with the vettes haven't already been prosecuted, licenses revoked, etc. Nearly every video they post on YT shows felony speeding, reckless endangerment, on and on. It's clear nearly 100% of the time what street they're on, the speed, etc. These assholes use public roads as their own personal racetracks on a daily basis and just skate by. Law enforcement is sleeping big time on these guys. I used to like some of these videos, but they've really gone too far with their antics.
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What I cannot understand is how guys like Choi, DDE, Parker, and that guy on the East Coast with the vettes haven't already been prosecuted, licenses revoked, etc. Nearly every video they post on YT shows felony speeding, reckless endangerment, on and on. It's clear nearly 100% of the time what street they're on, the speed, etc. These assholes use public roads as their own personal racetracks on a daily basis and just skate by. Law enforcement is sleeping big time on these guys. I used to like some of these videos, but they've really gone too far with their antics.
Yep. After being injured in a motorcycle wreck at the track, I take track driving and street driving very seriously when it comes to safety.
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