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      04-03-2021, 03:59 PM   #23
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I was offered the car and declined(he got it for about 40k) in October of last year. Here are some normal pics of the color which looks like a Camry. Also large dent in the rear quarter panel area, wonder how he fixed it.
If it weren't for you posting these pictures no one would have ever learned of the paint work. BAT has lost major credibility. How could you have confidence to buy a BAT car after this ?
Not sure this ultimately matters. Caveat emptor applies regardless of the auction house.

Even brand new cars are allowed to be sold as new if the dealer repairs damage in transit and it doesn't have to be disclosed.

The paint work looks good and if this guy didn't do the work himself nobody would've known if it weren't for internet detectives. I'm sure 50% of the cars on BaT have some back story or bodywork that isn't being disclosed. I bought my car and found dog hair under the seats before discovering the PO had a pet.

If someone really wants a not-quite silver stone E92 with very low miles it's a unique car.
I understand your point, but here both auction and seller were aware of this and it was not disclosed. I am surprised and disappointed that BAT did not disclose this. They have lost credibility in my mind.

Also, yes you can buy a new car that was previously damaged, but a dealer is obligated to disclose at a certain $ level. Further, they are obligated to disclose if you ask.
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I was offered the car and declined(he got it for about 40k) in October of last year. Here are some normal pics of the color which looks like a Camry. Also large dent in the rear quarter panel area, wonder how he fixed it.
If it weren't for you posting these pictures no one would have ever learned of the paint work. BAT has lost major credibility. How could you have confidence to buy a BAT car after this ?
Not sure this ultimately matters. Caveat emptor applies regardless of the auction house.

Even brand new cars are allowed to be sold as new if the dealer repairs damage in transit and it doesn't have to be disclosed.

The paint work looks good and if this guy didn't do the work himself nobody would've known if it weren't for internet detectives. I'm sure 50% of the cars on BaT have some back story or bodywork that isn't being disclosed. I bought my car and found dog hair under the seats before discovering the PO had a pet.

If someone really wants a not-quite silver stone E92 with very low miles it's a unique car.
I understand your point, but here both auction and seller were aware of this and it was not disclosed. I am surprised and disappointed that BAT did not disclose this. They have lost credibility in my mind.

Also, yes you can buy a new car that was previously damaged, but a dealer is obligated to disclose at a certain $ level. Further, they are obligated to disclose if you ask.
You're assuming the seller was being honest when he said he disclosed the paint work to BAT and they omitted it from the listing.

I don't believe the seller.
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If it weren't for you posting these pictures no one would have ever learned of the paint work. BAT has lost major credibility. How could you have confidence to buy a BAT car after this ?
This car is all about the color. The hood repaint is the main issue. Now BaT has revised the description and the seller has offered to forgive the high bidder if he wants to withdraw from bidding.
Another interesting detail is the build sheet calls for individual interior color which was swapped to normal at the factory. Another unique part of the story. Going forward this car will be standout as a documented mistake making it even more unique for collectors.
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As long as the paint job was done well and matched, I have no issue with the paint work. I'd rather have a front bumper with license plate holes filled in and no rock chips. And no rock chips on the hood. This is a bonus if you ask me.
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As long as the paint job was done well and matched, I have no issue with the paint work. I'd rather have a front bumper with license plate holes filled in and no rock chips. And no rock chips on the hood. This is a bonus if you ask me.
This would only apply if there were clear and documented pictures/receipts to show the condition of the car prior to paintwork. Auction reconditioning is absolute garbage. Some auctions don't even have booths, just open bays where they repair and paint. They don't even take off bumpers.
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As long as the paint job was done well and matched, I have no issue with the paint work. I'd rather have a front bumper with license plate holes filled in and no rock chips. And no rock chips on the hood. This is a bonus if you ask me.
This would only apply if there were clear and documented pictures/receipts to show the condition of the car prior to paintwork. Auction reconditioning is absolute garbage. Some auctions don't even have booths, just open bays where they repair and paint. They don't even take off bumpers.
The seller said he had the repairs done under his ownership. It wasn't done at the auction house so why are you saying that?
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As long as the paint job was done well and matched, I have no issue with the paint work. I'd rather have a front bumper with license plate holes filled in and no rock chips. And no rock chips on the hood. This is a bonus if you ask me.
This would only apply if there were clear and documented pictures/receipts to show the condition of the car prior to paintwork. Auction reconditioning is absolute garbage. Some auctions don't even have booths, just open bays where they repair and paint. They don't even take off bumpers.
The seller said he had the repairs done under his ownership. It wasn't done at the auction house so why are you saying that?
The original pictures are from an auction house . If any repairs were done before the actual sale, they were done poorly. That is all I am saying.
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As long as the paint job was done well and matched, I have no issue with the paint work. I'd rather have a front bumper with license plate holes filled in and no rock chips. And no rock chips on the hood. This is a bonus if you ask me.
This would only apply if there were clear and documented pictures/receipts to show the condition of the car prior to paintwork. Auction reconditioning is absolute garbage. Some auctions don't even have booths, just open bays where they repair and paint. They don't even take off bumpers.
The seller said he had the repairs done under his ownership. It wasn't done at the auction house so why are you saying that?
The original pictures are from an auction house . If any repairs were done before the actual sale, they were done poorly. That is all I am saying.
The photos of the car with the front license plate drilled into it are from the auction house.

The seller bought it from the auction house and then he did the repairs. So it appears the auction house didn't do them, but I do agree with you that's a good thing that the auction house didn't do the repairs because they would be guaranteed to be shit.
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I just looked through the BAT ad, and this is a dealer sale.Likely the same dealer who bought it from wholesale and is now flipping it. Nothing wrong with that. I would love to see the auction condition report. Dealer has no Yelp page (that I could find) or website.

Same dent on right quarter panel.
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A few months ago Rob Siegel, "the Hack Mechanic", sold a friend's BMW on BaT and noted the problem with BaT's description not including all the small flaw details. He did something smart and appreciated by the commenters. He made his own list of flaws and posted it as a comment when the auction first went live.
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Auction closed with winning bid @ $68.5k. I'm curious what is the big driver here, the 1 of 1 color, or the story of a factory mistake?
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Auction closed with winning bid @ $68.5k. I'm curious what is the big driver here, the 1 of 1 color, or the story of a factory mistake?
I'd say more the story. Rich people loveee a good story behind a car which is why certain Ferrari's command higher than a normal one even with the same color.

Someone buying it wants to be able to brag/tell that they now own this car and the story behind it.
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Auction closed with winning bid @ $68.5k. I'm curious what is the big driver here, the 1 of 1 color, or the story of a factory mistake?
I'd say more the story. Rich people loveee a good story behind a car which is why certain Ferrari's command higher than a normal one even with the same color.

Someone buying it wants to be able to brag/tell that they now own this car and the story behind it.
Yea and this is what I find comical. The color is just flat out ugly.

I would rather have a plain Jane black E90 6MT that was lower mileage.
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Not a fan of the color at all, but glad the auction did well.
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Not a fan of the color at all, but glad the auction did well.
I'm a fan of the color according to the enhanced photos on BAT. Looks like Atlantis on there.

I'm not a big fan of the color in real life. It's much more gray and plain.
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Yes BAT did a great job with the photos, hope the buyer isn't disappointed with it in person.
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Ding in the rear has been repaired pretty poorly, the fact you can still see where it was ďfixedĒ in these photos suggests to me it would be worse in person.
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Thank you for all the comments. Reading them was entertaining. I bought the car. I am GreggysDad on BaT (no child named Greggy in real life; however). I bought the car because I love E92 M3ís and I now have the only one made in this specific color (from the factory). It also has 20,000 miles, is a manual and has ZCP. The car is in great shape. I will drive the car less than 100 miles per year.

I purchased a black DCT ZCP with 28,000 miles last year, also on BaT, for $33,000. It is in really good shape as well, but the Atlantic Blue interior and 99% of the exterior are pretty much perfect. I will drive the black one less than 100 miles per year as well.

I purchased my original 2011 E92 in early 2012 and have loved them ever since. Itís a Silverstone Metallic DCT with ZCP and has about 50,000 miles on it now. I drive it 4-5 days per month and donít worry about keeping it perfect.

My plan is to purchase a few car E92ís over the next 24-36 months and then sit on them. I believe they are going to keep appreciating in value. I only like OEM cars. I think so many of the E92ís have various levels of Mods, the OEM cars (with low miles) will appreciate even faster compared to other collectible cars.

I have always enjoyed reading posts on the E92 forumís, but this thread pushed me to register. Thank you for that. This is my first post.
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Thank you for all the comments. Reading them was entertaining. I bought the car. I am GreggysDad on BaT (no child named Greggy in real life; however). I bought the car because I love E92 M3’s and I now have the only one made in this specific color (from the factory). It also has 20,000 miles, is a manual and has ZCP. The car is in great shape. I will drive the car less than 100 miles per year.

I purchased a black DCT ZCP with 28,000 miles last year, also on BaT, for $33,000. It is in really good shape as well, but the Atlantic Blue interior and 99% of the exterior are pretty much perfect. I will drive the black one less than 100 miles per year as well.

I purchased my original 2011 E92 in early 2012 and have loved them ever since. It’s a Silverstone Metallic DCT with ZCP and has about 50,000 miles on it now. I drive it 4-5 days per month and don’t worry about keeping it perfect.

My plan is to purchase a few car E92’s over the next 24-36 months and then sit on them. I believe they are going to keep appreciating in value. I only like OEM cars. I think so many of the E92’s have various levels of Mods, the OEM cars (with low miles) will appreciate even faster compared to other collectible cars.

I have always enjoyed reading posts on the E92 forum’s, but this thread pushed me to register. Thank you for that. This is my first post.
Congrats on your purchase. This platform will continue to grow in demand as the brand continues to churn out models like the G8X and the presence of electrification becomes ever more prevalent in the marketplace. Regardless of history, this particular car is a great buy. Enjoy!
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[QUOTE=AGreenie;27513607]Thank you for all the comments. Reading them was entertaining. I bought the car.

GreggysDad- Thank you for chiming in to this thread. It is great to get "The Rest of the Story".
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