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05-06-2021, 11:59 AM | #24 |
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Running 275/295 PS4S here with my 625 kit.
If you're laying down the power, traction will be an issue regardless. But with over 10k miles on my tires alone, I can tell you that I have never not felt confident in the rain. Best all around grip and versatile tire choice for me. |
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The PO of my car (G-Power SK2) had a pretty unique, "out of the box" solution to the same problem, so doubtful this is going to be useful info, but just in case...
He had the rear 220s widened (toward the inside) so that they'd accept 305/30/19s. I later added 5mm spacers because there was slight rubbing at full suspension droop though. The 305s really do help with acceleration in the first 3 gears but it's not a cure all, you still can't just blindly nail the throttle. Even rolling the throttle on too hard in 2nd will cause wheel spin at 45mph, so an upshift to 3rd before it gets too out of shape (65mph) is the strategy.
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05-10-2021, 04:18 PM | #26 | |
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Right now I'm on the fence between a 255/275 setup with A052 or PS4. I was also debating AD08 R, but Tire Rack has them lacking in "cooler" temps (in the 50's, and Seattle is in the 50's or less probably like 8 months of the year). |
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05-11-2021, 09:25 AM | #27 |
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255/275 PS4 gets my vote. I wouldn't go with A052 or AD08R for daily in Seattle given rain and consistently lower temps. You'll likely have worse traction 90% of the year.
Going to 295 in the rear definitely helps, but SC S65 is a touchy beast and not a great launch car. It's less of a tire issue and more throttle modulation. My SC e92 doesn't get much street love anymore. So street tires are generally irrelevant for me.
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Tire Rack has the A052 as a top performer in wet conditions, albeit on the track, not real world. What I couldn't find is how they do in cool to cold conditions. If they are bad in cooler conditions like the AD80R, or at least worse than than PS4 in cooler conditions, I'll cross them off the list and just go with PS4. |
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05-11-2021, 05:24 PM | #30 | |
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As mentioned PS4S is great in the rain. Best performance tire to run in the Seattle area IMHO. I often ran them at near freezing temps, and while you certainly cant lay any power down, it is workable to put around in. |
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05-11-2021, 05:51 PM | #31 | |
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Oh, and I keep forgetting, tramlining is a huge issue here, so I'm hesitant about going wide in the front. The freeways are so grooved in all lanes, they will basically steer the car for you. Exiting those grooves at speed can be super sketchy and it seems like wide front would make that a bigger issue. |
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05-12-2021, 01:33 PM | #32 | |
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However, the m3 stock uses a 245 front, and it tramlined less than the rx-8 did. So yes, it probably will make it tramline worse, but I dont know how much worse. it depends on the car. Also regarding running 295s in the back. I think this is a case, of you technically can, but should you? You'll find people that swear that 295 is too wide for a 10" wheel, and most manufacturers say a 295 is the absolute max on a 10" wheel. The fact of the matter is you are going to have reduced sidewall support vs a 265, no matter which way you look at it. There are legit reasons why I pursued wider wheels. I was considering 275/295 on the stock zcps, but ultimately knew it would be a flawed setup. If michelin would just make the ps4s in a 285/30/r19 setup this would be a non issue, because then we could just run the GTS tire sizes and be done with it. |
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05-17-2021, 10:21 PM | #33 |
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Ended up going the safe route with a 255/275 PS4 setup. Got a deal that I couldn't pass up. $1168 including tax (10.1% here in Seattle), shipping, and 3 year road hazard protection.
Does well in wet, more sidewall should add a little extra comfort, and at the least they should have a bit more grip than my current setup.
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I've been daily driving the Advan AD0x series for at least 12 years now (across 4 different cars) cos I wanted a tire I could daily and take to the hills/track, and have never found a better replacement in terms of overall dry grip, wet usability (won't try to kill you), heat resistance (important cos its hot here), lower tire noise (for this sort of tire), wear (usable down to 5-10% tread left with little grip drop-off), and ability to rotate left-right to even out camber wear. There are tons of tires that have better outright pace (RE71R, A052, etc), are much better in the wet (PSS, PS4S), or are cheaper (Hankooks, Federals) but none that are just good at everything like the AD08R. |
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They have been widening wheels for racers for 40+ years without a failure. They've been on the car since 2009 (60,000 miles). I think there is some serious tribal knowledge to make it work though, because there aren't too many other companies trying it.
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Well, crap, just looked and they no longer do that, just narrowing...
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I am curious why widening is more difficult than narrowing though. More expensive I understand, but more difficult, I don't understand.
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05-20-2021, 08:02 PM | #41 |
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I would guess if you took in a wheel to be widened he would have to produce a band of material to match it, which would likely be difficult. If you took 2 wheels in and sacrificed 1 to make the other it would not be that bad, just cut them both and weld together. As expensive as these wheels can be that may not be most peoples first choice. That having been said I think I would do that, maybe one well used for the inside and one new for the face, just to have a set of Comp wheels at 11" for the rear.
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