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      10-30-2021, 06:28 AM   #133
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Pic? What color you wanting to paint it?
Jet black but any black that will blend in more than prime would be great. You can see how it stands out later today. It looks like a huge pimple, LOL
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      10-30-2021, 08:33 AM   #134
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I have a bunch of different shades of black here we can try if you want.
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Fun times today guys.. Thanks for coming out. Kevin - car is sounding gooooood!
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      10-30-2021, 07:26 PM   #136
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What a guy!!! Indeed it was fun quick project! Btw, I think you need a bigger garage, LOL
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Drove my M3 around early evening and it has very loud drone in low rpm range. As soon as I get above 2800~3000 ish rpm, it shifts into a fine tuned glorious music! But man that drone is unbearably loud. I tried with top down, top up w/ windows open, and top up w/ windows closed. First setting is the loudest and lowers down respectively.

I searched around for some tips on this forum and other ones and I'm going to try couple of things next week: 1) put some cork underlayment/shelf-liner in the trunk below the carpeted board and side pockets, 2) stick dynomat extreme between main exhaust and heat shield & areas above exhaust tips, and 3) no more cruising below 3k rpm, LOL.

Oh man, the sound is so awesome tho!!!

BTW Pat: the paint & coating on tow hook cover came out pretty good. Slightly off color but blends in pretty good. Thanks!
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I fill-up my gas and placed some padded towels in the trunk underlay area and the drone tone down to a level much more tolerable. Also, the drone happens right around 2k rpm and I think I figured out how to stay out of that spot which helps avoid eardrum busting drone. OMG, it sounds soooo good anywhere above 4k rpm. Also, the exhaust gives a monstrous sound in cold start.
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I fill-up my gas and placed some padded towels in the trunk underlay area and the drone tone down to a level much more tolerable. Also, the drone happens right around 2k rpm and I think I figured out how to stay out of that spot which helps avoid eardrum busting drone. OMG, it sounds soooo good anywhere above 4k rpm. Also, the exhaust gives a monstrous sound in cold start.
Once you get an x-pipe on there it may help the drone. Some systems get drone, some don't. I'm lucky I didn't get any at all with my setups.
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Once you get an x-pipe on there it may help the drone. Some systems get drone, some don't. I'm lucky I didn't get any at all with my setups.
I read up on this too where the diameter difference between stock mid-pipe and aftermarket muffler and x-pipe shape/flow will help cure some of it. I'll do some more research and see what people have experienced. I'm sure I'll want more performance out of my M3 so that's what will likely happen in the near future. For now, I'm enjoying the sound of it.
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@Pat: What was the name and spec of lowering springs you mentioned?
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@Pat: What was the name and spec of lowering springs you mentioned?
H&R sport springs.

They come in two variants. Sport and sport plus (or +).

The only difference is the spring rate. The plus version are stiffer. I don't find the car needs any stiffer springs specially if you have EDC.

The drop is the same... Very mild,. 0.75-1.00 front and 0.25-0.5 rear, I don't recall exactly but it's perfect on that chassis IMO.
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H&R sport springs.

They come in two variants. Sport and sport plus (or +).

The only difference is the spring rate. The plus version are stiffer. I don't find the car needs any stiffer springs specially if you have EDC.

The drop is the same... Very mild,. 0.75-1.00 front and 0.25-0.5 rear, I don't recall exactly but it's perfect on that chassis IMO.
Thank you for the info!
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H&R sport springs.

They come in two variants. Sport and sport plus (or +).

The only difference is the spring rate. The plus version are stiffer. I don't find the car needs any stiffer springs specially if you have EDC.

The drop is the same... Very mild,. 0.75-1.00 front and 0.25-0.5 rear, I don't recall exactly but it's perfect on that chassis IMO.
Did you have to shave the use E36 bump stop and shave the strut mount like others have been saying in the forum? Not sure if I want to do all this for a moderate drop vs. set-up my wheels/tires to make it look more flush and gap filled.
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Did you have to shave the use E36 bump stop and shave the strut mount like others have been saying in the forum? Not sure if I want to do all this for a moderate drop vs. set-up my wheels/tires to make it look more flush and gap filled.
Nope nothing. Just the springs and good to go.
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Guy locally selling this set of wheels with only a couple thousand miles on them - would essentially look like a poor man's version of this HRE set-up? Any thoughts on enkei quality or the all black look? I think it would mean I would absolutely have to black out the window trim...
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Guy locally selling this set of wheels with only a couple thousand miles on them - would essentially look like a poor man's version of this HRE set-up? Any thoughts on enkei quality or the all black look? I think it would mean I would absolutely have to black out the window trim...
Nice find! I had enkei's on my Hondas before and they were good wheels. Of course, I had them two decades ago, so I assume the quality should be better?

I say go for it!
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Guy locally selling this set of wheels with only a couple thousand miles on them - would essentially look like a poor man's version of this HRE set-up? Any thoughts on enkei quality or the all black look? I think it would mean I would absolutely have to black out the window trim...
Wheels look slick on the vert. Can you confirm the offsets you posted there are consistent with the ones you're looking to buy? I'd like to make sure that the fitment is right.

Also, do you have specs for your current wheels? I think the 35mm offset at the rear looks a little high.
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Guy locally selling this set of wheels with only a couple thousand miles on them - would essentially look like a poor man's version of this HRE set-up? Any thoughts on enkei quality or the all black look? I think it would mean I would absolutely have to black out the window trim...
Wheels look slick on the vert. Can you confirm the offsets you posted there are consistent with the ones you're looking to buy? I'd like to make sure that the fitment is right.

Also, do you have specs for your current wheels? I think the 35mm offset at the rear looks a little high.
Thanks gents - appreciate the feedback

OEM 220m fronts are 19x8.5 et+29 with 245/35/19 tires and rears are 19x9.5 et+23 with 265/35/19. Right now I am running 15mm spacers in the front (effectively et+44?) and 12mm in the rear (effectively et+35?) and have a little rubbing up front on full lock but rear is perfect. That said, the enkei's have 20mm wider rubber mounted (265 front / 285 rear).
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Thanks gents - appreciate the feedback

OEM 220m fronts are 19x8.5 et+29 with 245/35/19 tires and rears are 19x9.5 et+23 with 265/35/19. Right now I am running 15mm spacers in the front (effectively et+44?) and 12mm in the rear (effectively et+35?) and have a little rubbing up front on full lock but rear is perfect. That said, the enkei's have 20mm wider rubber mounted (265 front / 285 rear).
I thought we had the same wheels... My spec shows F: 19x9 with 245/35/19 and R: 19x10 with 275/35/19. I know the rear should be 265 but the widths on both of your setup seems 0.5" narrower than mine. Maybe 220m can have different specs?

BTW, my EC7 fell through and I'm seriously considering Titan 7 T-S5 F: 18x9.5 (et 22) and R: 18x10.5 (et 25) in Satin Titanium color. Wrapped with Michelin PS4 AS 265/40/18 & 285/40/18 stock height.

If I end up dropping on H&Rs or Eibachs with minimum drop, should I consider getting 35 profile tires instead?
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Thanks gents - appreciate the feedback

OEM 220m fronts are 19x8.5 et+29 with 245/35/19 tires and rears are 19x9.5 et+23 with 265/35/19. Right now I am running 15mm spacers in the front (effectively et+44?) and 12mm in the rear (effectively et+35?) and have a little rubbing up front on full lock but rear is perfect. That said, the enkei's have 20mm wider rubber mounted (265 front / 285 rear).
Okay so with the 15mm spacer up front you're actually running +ET14. You'll want to subtract the spacer number from the OG ET value.

In the rear you've got +ET11

I would say those wheels you're looking at are non-m fitment. You'd have to add some serious spacer for those to work.

For contrast, I'm running 19x9.5 +ET25 front and 19x10.5 +ET25.

Here's a link that can help calculate offset relative to what you find looks good fender-gap wise.

https://www.1010tires.com/Tools/Wheel-Offset-Calculator

I used this tool to calculate my max push against the fender without rubbing but you also have to consider other factors like tire width, sidewall shape and camber setting.
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Thanks gents - appreciate the feedback

OEM 220m fronts are 19x8.5 et+29 with 245/35/19 tires and rears are 19x9.5 et+23 with 265/35/19. Right now I am running 15mm spacers in the front (effectively et+44?) and 12mm in the rear (effectively et+35?) and have a little rubbing up front on full lock but rear is perfect. That said, the enkei's have 20mm wider rubber mounted (265 front / 285 rear).
Okay so with the 15mm spacer up front you're actually running +ET14. You'll want to subtract the spacer number from the OG ET value.

In the rear you've got +ET11

I would say those wheels you're looking at are non-m fitment. You'd have to add some serious spacer for those to work.

For contrast, I'm running 19x9.5 +ET25 front and 19x10.5 +ET25.

Here's a link that can help calculate offset relative to what you find looks good fender-gap wise.

https://www.1010tires.com/Tools/Wheel-Offset-Calculator

I used this tool to calculate my max push against the fender without rubbing but you also have to consider other factors like tire width, sidewall shape and camber setting.
Thanks Pat - very happy you chimed in! I was already starting to second guess the all black and you saved me from having to think about another second.
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LOL, you guys were right about the obsession leading to purchasing parts for the M3. I just installed painted bumper reflectors and IND black DCT shift knob with M3 color stitching. I am also scheduled to pick up CF front lip, ordering rear diffuser, made deposit on Haimus plenum through a group-buy, and waiting to order Titan 18" wheels. Also, shopping around for lowering springs and CF intake arm and filter. Hopefully, all these will be ready before Christmas break. Yikes!
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Lol! Good luck buddy. Looks like the mod bug bit!
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