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.75" conduit is sufficient, could get away with .5" as well if you only run the one cable. ( I recommend 2 cables cause if you are pulling 1 in, 2 is just as easy)
LB out the house, 90 into the ground. bury it 18" along the sidewalk. 90 up out of ground, LB into pool house. Slap connectors on and plug into routers. if you arent handy, or dont want to deal with it, it is a half to full day job for any competent electrician/handyman depending on distance and what is in the way. or you can try a powerful router in the closest openings to each other in the main and pool houses. should be enough to get you a signal to the pool house, and then the router in there will be able to spread throughout the pool house.
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i agree though, not the best option, and not the cheapest. cheapest is running a cable yourself.
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Assuming your pool house is electrically wired to your main house, just use powerline Ethernet adapters. Plug one in wherever your main router/modem is and plug in the other end to the pool house, then run an Ethernet cable from that to an AP, like an Apple base station or Google wifi. I have a webcam in our shed that runs through Ethernet-over-powerline and the connection is rock solid.
Modem/router in main house => Ethernet-Over-Powerline => 2nd Ethernet-Over-Powerline in pool house => Wifi AP (Apple or Google wifi).
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The power line adapter did not work. There's is some sort of connection issue between the pool house and main house.
The power line adapters we're working together in the same room when I tested them but once I moved the 2nd unit to the pool house it just didn't work. My next option is to return this and buy the mesh system? I saw it at Best Buy for 350 to 500..... and I think google was one of the makers :/
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Running a wire seems difficult....
We have concrete, trees and walls in between the pool house and main house sadly....
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I would go with the Netgear one if I were you. The Google one is good I installed it at dad's house but it's less modular. Orbi seems more professional grade and you can add as many units as you want. If pool house to main house is a bit too far you could even put the all weather Orbi in between to bridge the gap.
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That's nice you have the option to use 5GHz as the bridge frequency. Good to see enterprise features making their way into consumer grade equipment.
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If you've read my posts, getting any of the wireless mesh systems like Google WiFi, Netgear Orbi, Linksys Velop, Eero, etc, you're going to run into a problem of wireless performance between access points as they all use omnidirectional antennas. If you want to use a wireless mesh, you need to spend the money and buy access points which support wireless mesh and can use external antennas which you'll be using directional antennas. Quote:
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The mesh wifi systems are awesome. I just set up my FIL's place with Google wifi so I could access admin services from several states away. But there are other options besides Google, and I don't blame anyone for wanting to shy away from Google branded stuff from a privacy standpoint. But check out the other mesh wifi devices.
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Things that affect WiFi performance: distance, objects (materials between the access point and the client), interference, loading of the access point, to name some off the top of my head. No one can provide any suggestions until you give more specifics about your environment such as how far is the wireless router from your master bedroom, how many walls are in between and what are the walls made of, how many other wireless networks are around you, etc. |
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The best thing to do is to pull cabling to points (or close to it) where an AP should be placed. And then use wireless equipment which function as a unified wireless network that are cabled. The second best thing would be a wireless mesh system. The third best is to use independent APs all set on the same SSID but each AP configured to use a non overlapping channel. And dead last would be using repeaters/range extenders. |
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First, just because someone has a fancy big house and hangs out on the BMW forums, doesn't mean they've got heaps of spare cash. While there's a fair whack of people on these foums clearing half-a-mil per annum; I've no doubt there's a fair few people here who've shelled out for the initial investment, but not left a lot of headroom for the higher expenses that come with such fancy "investments". Which is a long way of saying - just because OP has a Poolhouse, it's not really fair to assume they're flush with cash. Secondly, if this is a lavish mansion with a poolhouse, you're probably not talking a simple $300 trench & fill job. ... There's probably paving, and i dunno... maybe a pool in the way. Quote:
I'm trying to be polite about it, but a lot of people in this thread could pay to listen to what zx10guy is saying here. There are a lot of fancy, expensive, porcupine looking wireless routers on the market now, and a whole lot of brand name "mesh network" crap which you can feel free to spend thousands on getting your iPads hooked up to netflix around the house, but in reality are a single-radio wifi access point with some fancy management software. If you want to do a fast, reliable wireless connection in an outdoor area, you're best leaving those devices on the shelf. For outdoor building links, you want a wireless network to act as a pseudo-wire. If you need devices in the house or in the pool house to connect to a wireless network, that's a separate thing. For your outdoor link, you run a NETWORK CABLE from your Internet router to a specific point-to-point wireless access point which is mounted on the external wall of the house pointing toward the poolhouse. (ie. One of these ). You buy a SECOND ONE which is mounted on the external wall of the poolhouse, facing the one on the house, which will be the one and only wireless devices associated with the access point on your house. Either, you connect the computer in the poolhouse to the nanobeam using a network cable, or you get a cheap shitty indoor access point (or a sparkling new googe mesh system) for the WiFi network inside the poolhouse (something like this). If you don't have line of site from the poolhouse to the house, you find a third point which can be seen from both the poolhouse and the house, then you buy not one more, but TWO MORE nanobeams, connected with a network cable. One for the house link, one for the pool-house link. You can have as many hops as you need to connect the network without it causing any performance issues, as long as you do it right to start with using point-to-point directional wireless links. The Ubiquiti gear I've linked automatically finds free radio spectrum, is relatively easy to setup and is dirt cheap for the job it does. We use the nanobeams for sub 1km links, the powerbeams for 1-5km links and have an Airfibre link that's running more than 100Mbit/s over a 20km point to point link. |
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