50 whp possible with Bolt-ons?

M3 Montreal · 05-11-2009, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by niqui

im not doubting the performance gains...i rmeeber our roll-on.
but just 75hp sounds like a lot...didnt you tell me you gained around 50hp from all your work? cause if u gained 75hp, ur car is gonna be pushing, theoretically, 489hp.... when the rs46 stroker gets u what 118 hp or so boost....im just thinking
...ur car is my reference essentially.

I said I gained about 50 to 60 WHP from my work not at the crank. At the crank 60 hp is about 75 or so.

niterider · 05-11-2009, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by MrHarris

I wouldn't mind a ride

. Does Gintani tune ANY M3 with mods or just M3's with their mods?

We should get niterider (full bolt-ons) to run against PG and see how big of a difference the 4.6L is.

If u wanna visit Gintani someday let me know and I can meet u so I can give u a ride in my car...As far as the run with with Rob, that would be interesting just to see by how many cars he pulls away from me, his car is fast. What I do plan on doing is some runs with another stock e90 M3 and filming it. Just to show how much of a difference the whp makes when compared in a run. I think this will help people believe and Im curious as well.

powertrip · 05-12-2009, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by niterider

If u wanna visit Gintani someday let me know and I can meet u so I can give u a ride in my car...As far as the run with with Rob, that would be interesting just to see by how many cars he pulls away from me, his car is fast. What I do plan on doing is some runs with another stock e90 M3 and filming it. Just to show how much of a difference the whp makes when compared in a run. I think this will help people believe and Im curious as well.

Kind of off topic...Gintani will be working on my M3 very soon. How bad is the smell with the full cat delete? I had an STI that was catless and it was absolutely rancid. Kind of ruined me on it, but the extra power is nice.

niqui · 05-12-2009, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by powertrip

Kind of off topic...Gintani will be working on my M3 very soon. How bad is the smell with the full cat delete? I had an STI that was catless and it was absolutely rancid. Kind of ruined me on it, but the extra power is nice.

its funny, i dont think you will smell it while your driving, but everyone else will, and it really does stink.

dogears · 05-12-2009, 01:28 PM

I would not dream of full cat delete. I liek to be a little environmentally conscious. And it really does stink. Smells a little bit with high flows as well... Without is an eye burner.

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Originally Posted by powertrip

Kind of off topic...Gintani will be working on my M3 very soon. How bad is the smell with the full cat delete? I had an STI that was catless and it was absolutely rancid. Kind of ruined me on it, but the extra power is nice.

Sales@Gintani.com · 05-12-2009, 01:31 PM

We also offer a 300 cel cat, if you dont want to delete your cat.

M3 Montreal · 05-12-2009, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by niqui

its funny, i dont think you will smell it while your driving, but everyone else will, and it really does stink.

LOL... I can attest to the fact that it does in fact stink but does not smell at all in the cabin.

powertrip · 05-12-2009, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Raz@Gintani.com

We also offer a 300 cel cat, if you dont want to delete your cat.

That's going to be the ticket

. PM me how much the cat's add to the price.

Sales@Gintani.com · 05-12-2009, 05:12 PM

Hey everyone we decided that we are having a summer special. Our full exhaust system now costs $3500!! We don't want people to wait for 9 other buyers just so they can get the exhaust for the GB price. So for a limited time only the full exhaust system is $3500. If you have any questions or want to place an order, please give us a call at 818-787-8260 or just shoot me a PM. Thanks

niterider · 05-12-2009, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by M3 Montreal

LOL... I can attest to the fact that it does in fact stink but does not smell at all in the cabin.

Yup it does smell, I personally like the smell, but u rarely smell it in the cabin. Only people around u, Kinda sucks for them.

M3 Montreal · 05-12-2009, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by niterider

Yup it does smell, I personally like the smell, but u rarely smell it in the cabin. Only people around u, Kinda sucks for them.

Haha... I also like the smell. Reminds me of racetracks plus I like the small backfires when you let go the gas. Little itsy bitsy backfires... haha

niqui · 05-12-2009, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by M3 Montreal

Haha... I also like the smell. Reminds me of racetracks plus I like the small backfires when you let go the gas. Little itsy bitsy backfires... haha

drive slow in front of an old lady and you'll probably kill her man...your car nearly knocked me out

. gotta love it.

duk · 05-13-2009, 01:04 AM

wow full exhaust at only 3500?? wow

aus · 05-13-2009, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Raz@Gintani.com

Hey everyone we decided that we are having a summer special. Our full exhaust system now costs $3500!! We don't want people to wait for 9 other buyers just so they can get the exhaust for the GB price. So for a limited time only the full exhaust system is $3500. If you have any questions or want to place an order, please give us a call at 818-787-8260 or just shoot me a PM. Thanks

Is that with straight pipes from the headers back?
How much are the HF Cat pipes.
Great price.

hl0m4n · 05-13-2009, 02:07 AM

50whp of pure n/a goodness is easy to obtain with the following & their pretty accurate estimates:
1. Full Exhaust (+13 WHP)
2. Headers (+15 WHP)
3. Pulley (+5 WHP)
4. Intake (+7 WHP)
5. ECU (+10 WHP)

Sales@Evolve · 05-13-2009, 02:41 AM

Hi Guys,

Some Dyno Dynamics operators are running these cars in 3rd gear and others in 4th gear.

Unlike most cars, the results between gears on an E9x M3 are substantially different.

Therefore, it's totally pointless comparing results.

A STOCK car in 3rd gear will make 315 rwhp. A stock car in 4th gear will make 350+rwhp.

I have numerous example of this.

What we need to see is the road speed on the x-axis rather than RPM when looking between results.

M3WC · 05-13-2009, 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by hl0m4n

50whp of pure n/a goodness is easy to obtain with the following & their pretty accurate estimates:
1. Full Exhaust (+13 WHP)
2. Headers (+15 WHP)
3. Pulley (+5 WHP)
4. Intake (+7 WHP)
5. ECU (+10 WHP)

A full catless exhaust and ecu flash will net you more than 23hp. Most of power gains from these bolt-on M3 are from the full race exhaust setups.

MrHarris · 05-13-2009, 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Sal@Evolve

Hi Guys,

Some Dyno Dynamics operators are running these cars in 3rd gear and others in 4th gear.

Unlike most cars, the results between gears on an E9x M3 are substantially different.

Therefore, it's totally pointless comparing results.

A STOCK car in 3rd gear will make 315 rwhp. A stock car in 4th gear will make 350+rwhp.

I have numerous example of this.

What we need to see is the road speed on the x-axis rather than RPM when looking between results.

My previous 08 M3 made 333 bone stock with 3rd gear pull on a dyno dynamics.

CSanto · 05-13-2009, 12:03 PM

Your 08 died?

Sales@Evolve · 05-13-2009, 12:04 PM

Mr Harris, what grade of fuel were you using?

We generally find 335-345 rwhp in 3rd with premium grade fuel.

Akara1 · 05-13-2009, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Sal@Evolve

Hi Guys,

Some Dyno Dynamics operators are running these cars in 3rd gear and others in 4th gear.

Unlike most cars, the results between gears on an E9x M3 are substantially different.

Therefore, it's totally pointless comparing results.

A STOCK car in 3rd gear will make 315 rwhp. A stock car in 4th gear will make 350+rwhp.

I have numerous example of this.

What we need to see is the road speed on the x-axis rather than RPM when looking between results.

Are you suggesting that vendors are showing gains by dynoing in a different gear after the mods?

Sales@Evolve · 05-13-2009, 12:47 PM

Not at all.

My point is that we should be comparing apples with apples and not oranges.

We have a large database of dyno graphs building up in different gears on the same dyno and the results are massively different.

See below graph as an example: (crank figures, wheel figures available if you want to see it).

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Sales@Evolve 96 Rep 1,064 Posts Drives: Slow Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Luton, Bedfordshire iTrader: (0)	Hi Guys, Some Dyno Dynamics operators are running these cars in 3rd gear and others in 4th gear. Unlike most cars, the results between gears on an E9x M3 are substantially different. Therefore, it's totally pointless comparing results. A STOCK car in 3rd gear will make 315 rwhp. A stock car in 4th gear will make 350+rwhp. I have numerous example of this. What we need to see is the road speed on the x-axis rather than RPM when looking between results.
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Sales@Evolve 96 Rep 1,064 Posts Drives: Slow Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Luton, Bedfordshire iTrader: (0)	Not at all. My point is that we should be comparing apples with apples and not oranges. We have a large database of dyno graphs building up in different gears on the same dyno and the results are massively different. See below graph as an example: (crank figures, wheel figures available if you want to see it).
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