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      09-20-2018, 03:24 PM   #1
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Flu Shot vs No Flu Shot

So how many of you are getting the flu shot this year? Last year it was like a walking dead scenario with everyone getting the shot and then getting sick. I didn't get it last year and didn't get sick. I know other people who didn't get it and didn't get sick. But the health care system was overwhelmed with sick people to the point where people were being told not to go to the hospital if possible.
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I have gotten the flu shot every year - never gotten sick. Just got mine yesterday.
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Honestly unsure why anyone who is not immuno-suppressed would not get the vaccine. I get mine every year.

A flu vaccine is the first and best way to reduce your chances of getting the flu and spreading it to others. CDC recommends that everyone 6 months of age and older receive a flu vaccine every year.

The flu vaccine cannot cause flu. The vaccines either contain inactivated virus, meaning the viruses are no longer infectious, or a particle designed to look like a flu virus to your immune system. While the nasal spray flu vaccine does contain a live virus, the viruses are changed so that they cannot give you the flu.
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Was at doctors today for my annual physical and blood work for insurance premium reduction. Doc tried to convince me to get it, I said no. I’ve never gotten it and have not needed to. Knock on wood....

I take Emergency-C everyday along with super greens and other immune system support. Wash my hands and am mindful of what/who I touch.
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but i heard it gives you the flu. don't trust your pharmacists and doctors! they are trying to kill you.
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Was at doctors today for my annual physical and blood work for insurance premium reduction. Doc tried to convince me to get it, I said no. I’ve never gotten it and have not needed to. Knock on wood....

I take Emergency-C everyday along with super greens and other immune system support. Wash my hands and am mindful of what/who I touch.
You have every right to determine if you want to take the vaccine, however, please understand all your facts before making that decision.

1) Emergency-C has been clinically proven to be completely ineffective at reducing your chance for catching any virus of any kind. It is has been scientifically proven to be nothing more than a placebo.

2) Super greens and other immune system support items, with exception of specific medically directed drugs have never been proven to offer any type of reduction in the spread, transmission, or receipt of airborne pathogens, viruses, or other contagions.
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but i heard it gives you the flu. don't trust your pharmacists and doctors! they are trying to kill you.

Man, I hope this was a joke and said in jest/sarcasm.
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Was at doctors today for my annual physical and blood work for insurance premium reduction. Doc tried to convince me to get it, I said no. I’ve never gotten it and have not needed to. Knock on wood....

I take Emergency-C everyday along with super greens and other immune system support. Wash my hands and am mindful of what/who I touch.
You have every right to determine if you wan to take the vaccine, however, please understand all your facts before making that decision.

1) Emergency-C has been clinically proven to be completely ineffective at reducing your chance for catching any virus of any kind. It is has been scientifically proven to be nothing more than a placebo.

2) Super greens and other immune system support items, with exception of specific medically directed drugs have never been proven to offer any type of reduction in the spread, transmission, or receipt of airborne pathogens, viruses, or other contagions.
The flu shot doesn't prevent the flu either.
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The flu shot doesn't prevent the flu either.
False, prevention rates historically run around 50%.

The CDC conducts studies each year to determine how well the influenza vaccine protects against flu illness. While vaccine effectiveness can vary, recent studies show that flu vaccination reduces the risk of flu illness by between 40% and 60% among the overall population during seasons when most circulating flu viruses are well-matched to the flu vaccine. In general, current flu vaccines tend to work better against influenza B and influenza A(H1N1) viruses and offer lower protection against influenza A(H3N2) viruses.
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Shits a gimmick. Never had one nor will I ever and I rarely get sick. The wifey gives flu shots everyday at work but never got one either. She gets sick from giving so many of them.
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The flu shot doesn't prevent the flu either.
False, prevention rates historically run around 50%.

The CDC conducts studies each year to determine how well the influenza vaccine protects against flu illness. While vaccine effectiveness can vary, recent studies show that flu vaccination reduces the risk of flu illness by between 40% and 60% among the overall population during seasons when most circulating flu viruses are well-matched to the flu vaccine. In general, current flu vaccines tend to work better against influenza B and influenza A(H1N1) viruses and offer lower protection against influenza A(H3N2) viruses.
Flu illness and flu contraction aren't the same thing. The OP is correct.
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Whole family gets it every year.
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I don't and I don't get sick... ever
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Man, I hope this was a joke and said in jest/sarcasm.
it was... i am a drug dealer....used to work retail....this conversation is so beat out its not even funny. but hey everyone; make your own medical decisions, since the people who went to school forever; can't decipher what is evidence based medicine vs posted by cracked.com


FULL DISCLOSURE which i will get flamed for...

I have never gotten a flu shot nor the flu. I can survive the flu; on the other hand if you are a child, elderly, or have cormid conditions; then you can save your alarmist articles. Where should I stick it in?
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Flu illness and flu contraction aren't the same thing. The OP is correct.
That is being ridiculously pedantic.

When someone speaks of coming down with the flu, one is typically speaking of the flu illness - i.e. the contagious respiratory illness caused by influenza virus.
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it was... i am a drug dealer....used to work retail....this conversation is so beat out its not even funny. but hey everyone; make your own medical decisions, since the people who went to school forever; can't decipher what is evidence based medicine vs posted by cracked.com


FULL DISCLOSURE which i will get flamed for...

I have never gotten a flu shot nor the flu. I can survive the flu; on the other hand if you are a child, elderly, or have cormid conditions; then you can save your alarmist articles. Where should I stick it in?

Okay - I was seriously about to drop my jaw on the floor.
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Also you guys saying its a gimmick and such. when did medicine become so hard-fast outcome based. its the human body for christ sake, not replacing four new tires on your car. these bugs and viruses are forever evolving and undergoing natural selection, to create superbugs and muti-drug resistance. I am not being an alarmist, just saying think twice about going to the doctor for mundane shit like coughs,cold, and allergies; and, ultimately forcing their hand to write for antibiotics. The human immune system is marvelous and very strong; but it needs training without the aid of helpers.
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Flu illness and flu contraction aren't the same thing. The OP is correct.
That is being ridiculously pedantic.

When someone speaks of coming down with the flu, one is typically speaking of the flu illness - i.e. the contagious respiratory illness caused by influenza virus.
Perhaps it is, but you were the one that was pedantic lol

By saying that the vaccine helps with the illness, we're saying that the string of virus we have in our body helps our immune system fight it.

Conversely, being properly fed and with the right amount of vitamins we also help our immune system fight foreign bacteria and viruses.

You said the placebo didn't help with preventing contracting the virus.
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I have never gotten a flu shot. So far so good*knock on wood*.
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Also you guys saying its a gimmick and such. when did medicine become so hard-fast outcome based. its the human body for christ sake, not replacing four new tires on your car. these bugs and viruses are forever evolving and undergoing natural selection, to create superbugs and muti-drug resistance. I am not being an alarmist, just saying think twice about going to the doctor for mundane shit like coughs,cold, and allergies; and, ultimately forcing their hand to write for antibiotics. The human immune system is marvelous and very strong; but it needs training without the aid of helpers.
it's all a conspiracy and you're in on it!!!

you're trying to implant a mind controlling device in me so i can do your evil bidding - you evil sob
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That is being ridiculously pedantic.
.e. the contagious respiratory illness caused by influenza virus.
....why do you think anyone in care of small children or elderly are MANDATED to get the flu shot....

because you can be a CONTAGIOUS carrier of the INFLUENZA VIRUS and have the illness, just asymptomatic and it self resolves with a few sniffles and lethargy
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it's all a conspiracy and you're in on it!!!

you're trying to implant a mind controlling device in me so i can do your evil bidding - you evil sob
yes the evil bidding I want is for you to live longer and keep coming to my pharmacy and making me work
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