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      01-15-2010, 11:46 AM   #1
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BMW stopped M3 production in 2010?

I tried ordering a brand new M3 but dealer told me BMW won't be producing any more M3s until further notice.
He mentioned the global economic situation as the reason.
However, I have read speculation that BMW is not producing the M3 for good. The M3 is an outstanding deal in the market these days (price/performance), and is cannibalizing its vehicle lineup. Now that BMW is coming out with the new 5 series and specially the new M5, they wanna make sure they're a success.
Could this M3 rumor make sense?.. hope not.
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      01-15-2010, 12:18 PM   #2
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Orders for MY10 M3s are done (if not, they soon will be). The 2011 M3s are rolling out this Spring, so the production run for MY10s was cut short.
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      01-15-2010, 12:27 PM   #3
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However, I have read speculation that BMW is not producing the M3 for good. The M3 is an outstanding deal in the market these days (price/performance), and is cannibalizing its vehicle lineup. Now that BMW is coming out with the new 5 series and specially the new M5, they wanna make sure they're a success.
Could this M3 rumor make sense?.. hope not.
Blasphemy... all of it.
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      01-15-2010, 12:40 PM   #4
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Didn't hear that report but it makes for an interesting story. My guess is that BMW cut production for MY2010 early so they can prep the cars for the E92/E93 facelift.
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      01-15-2010, 01:00 PM   #5
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If the 2011 model comes out this Spring, that sucks for those of us who purchased 2009's late in the production run. Basically, 9 months after purchasing my 2009, a 2011 is available.
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      01-15-2010, 01:19 PM   #6
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If the 2011 model comes out this Spring, that sucks for those of us who purchased 2009's late in the production run. Basically, 9 months after purchasing my 2009, a 2011 is available.
Yup. By my understanding, in May 2010, MY 2011 M3s will be available stateside. In 2005 (I think), Audi released a "2005.5" as a refresh or something (new tails as I recall). But, people are saying that the next M3 will be a 2011. So, the 2011 MY runs 18 months??? 2009s will be two years old in about 3 months (hence the $4500 marketing support for remaining ones) and 2010s will suffer, too. It's interesting to say the least. Seems like a good time to be in the used market. AND, there are rumors of a 4-5% price bump on the 2011s.
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      01-15-2010, 03:01 PM   #7
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If the 2011 model comes out this Spring, that sucks for those of us who purchased 2009's late in the production run. Basically, 9 months after purchasing my 2009, a 2011 is available.
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      01-15-2010, 03:04 PM   #8
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Pretty crazy that my car came out of production 6.5 months ago and it will be '2 years old' in a couple of months. Will play havoc with resale values.
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      01-15-2010, 03:09 PM   #9
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Certainly hope production does not stop... I have a 2011 E90 on order, expected delivery is April (March production). I purchased in mid-December from a BMW dealer in Toronto.
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      01-15-2010, 03:19 PM   #10
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Sounds more like a Dell laptop than a car.. Couple months after you buy it they have one for less money, more memory etc etc.
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      01-15-2010, 04:18 PM   #11
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Certainly hope production does not stop... I have a 2011 E90 on order, expected delivery is April (March production). I purchased in mid-December from a BMW dealer in Toronto.
Not to burst your bubble or be negative, as I am also looking for a May/June 2011 e90 M3 as well.

But there are three things I thought I would mention.

If you really have a 2011 "on order" your dealer is just sitting on the deposit you gave them as there are no allocations for 2011 cars yet, meaning they cant even physically order a 2011 yet. If the dealer actually placed the order for your car, you would have a production #.

That being said, M3's have typically had a 10 week production cycle from when you get your production #. So if your car is set for March production it is highly unlikely you will receive your car in April. I am planning on ordering in March for a June delivery.

Third is if there is even going to be a 2011 e90 M3. There have been rumors. And hints by insiders about some model deletions for 2011. But there is nothing confirmed. At this point we are all waiting for either an announcement from BMWNA like the recent ones about the Z4 ans 335is and 5 series, or for our dealerships to get their February order allocations for March production.

At that point we will know if we can order 2011 e90 M3s, and youll get your production # with a realistic delivery time frame.

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      01-15-2010, 08:25 PM   #12
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Got a quote for $500 over invoice for fully loaded 2010 M3 to be delivered in a month to 2 months from now. I think it depends on the allocation the specific dealership has, correct me if I'm wrong and... should I accept this offer?
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From what I know, there are no new allocations for 2010's. Your dealer may have a car in production that they can modify. Maybe one of the last ones they ordered and it fell through. If you can look at the build sheet, pick the options you want, and actually get a production #, go for it.

But you may be able to get a 2010 off a lot in a month for a lot less if they annouce 2011's are ready to be ordered...

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      01-15-2010, 10:00 PM   #14
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When will we get the next generation of M3s? Anybody know?
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      01-15-2010, 10:17 PM   #15
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2012 will should be the new car, starting with the sedan. There are spy pics of it testing in europe.

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      01-16-2010, 04:07 AM   #17
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Yup. In 2005 (I think), Audi released a "2005.5" as a refresh or something (new tails as I recall). But, people are saying that the next M3 will be a 2011. So, the 2011 MY runs 18 months??? 2009s will be two years old in about 3 months (hence the $4500 marketing support for remaining ones) and 2010s will suffer, too. It's interesting to say the least. Seems like a good time to be in the used market. AND, there are rumors of a 4-5% price bump on the 2011s.
The 2005.5 S4 was a complete redesign. They went to the newer B7 body design and a different engine mid-year. Pissed a lot of people off. Messed up the market a ton too for Audi. I leased a 05.5 S4 for a screaming deal that year. It was a bit of a pain to sell too being a mid year model release.

Hopefully the 11 M3 wont have anything drastic changewise... Could spell trouble for us owners in resell market.
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      01-16-2010, 05:01 AM   #18
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I tried ordering a brand new M3 but dealer told me BMW won't be producing any more M3s until further notice.
He mentioned the global economic situation as the reason.
However, I have read speculation that BMW is not producing the M3 for good. The M3 is an outstanding deal in the market these days (price/performance), and is cannibalizing its vehicle lineup. Now that BMW is coming out with the new 5 series and specially the new M5, they wanna make sure they're a success.
Could this M3 rumor make sense?.. hope not.
Seriously, where does crap like this start? I mean, find the guy who started that rumor and slap him for being a complete and total moron.

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      01-16-2010, 05:33 AM   #19
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im so happy i have my 2009 m3. the next m3 i get will be a 600 hp car that 0 to 60 in 3.6 sec with a 210 top speed .
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      01-16-2010, 06:10 AM   #20
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This is just ridiculous. So you shouldn't get the first MY of a new generation because the bugs haven't been worked out yet. Can't get the second or third year because they're gonna screw you with a refresh, then by the time you get to the fourth or fifth year, you're too close to the next gen coming out so you have to wait for the next greatest thing. So when should you buy one?
Two things I've learned:
1. Don't make car buying decisions based on percieved, possible resale value. Get what you want when you can get it and enjoy it. Obsessing about future BMW stratagies affecting your resale value is pointless.
2. There will always be something better right around the corner. Get over it and enjoy what you've got when you got it, otherwise you will never be happy.
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      01-16-2010, 06:42 AM   #21
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This is just ridiculous. So you shouldn't get the first MY of a new generation because the bugs haven't been worked out yet. Can't get the second or third year because they're gonna screw you with a refresh, then by the time you get to the fourth or fifth year, you're too close to the next gen coming out so you have to wait for the next greatest thing. So when should you buy one?
Two things I've learned:
1. Don't make car buying decisions based on percieved, possible resale value. Get what you want when you can get it and enjoy it. Obsessing about future BMW stratagies affecting your resale value is pointless.
2. There will always be something better right around the corner. Get over it and enjoy what you've got when you got it, otherwise you will never be happy.
Re #1: Absolutely!

You are at least half right about #2: Something is always just around the corner. Whether it's better or not depends on the person judging.

When to buy? Varies according to the individual. Circumstances come into play as well (e.g. needs new car, lease is up, crashed current car, etc..,) No doubt it is tricky with the upsides and downsides for various model years.

Typically, third year is the earliest I am comfortable with purchasing. Where the E9x M3 is the subject, this V8 generation is IMHO going to be one for the ages. It is such a great car in so many ways. I will use it primarily as a GT. Initially, ordering an '10 was the plan. With the truncating of '10 production...stop everything. Now I'll probably wait for the last model year. Any perceived or real pain during the wait is more than offset by the certainty that the additional goodies included in the late year models of the generation will make for having-your-cake-and-getting-to-eat-it-too-situation.

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My 2008 m3 rocks. Zero problems. No bugs to speak of. And I have been loving it for over a year and a half. I still love it!!!
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