pilots or poles

scrammer · 09-24-2018, 07:52 PM

I am just wondering if anyone has experience with Potenza S04 Pole Position tires?
I'm thinking of moving away from Michelin which I've had for all of my ///M cars but the S04's are a lot cheaper (at least in Canada) and they come in GTS sizes ... any input would be appreciated!!!
I know these tires have been around a while (I did the search) but things change over time and I look forward to your input.

Iyzmi · 09-26-2018, 09:20 AM

I had S04 and currently have PS4S. Daily driving there is no perceivable difference whatsoever. Haven't had a chance to push the car much since I got the Michelins but I expect them to be better since they are the latest generation of the benchmark in this tire class. With that said, I never felt the S04 tires were lacking and I was quite happy with them. How do you use your car?

scrammer · 09-27-2018, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Iyzmi

I had S04 and currently have PS4S. Daily driving there is no perceivable difference whatsoever. Haven't had a chance to push the car much since I got the Michelins but I expect them to be better since they are the latest generation of the benchmark in this tire class. With that said, I never felt the S04 tires were lacking and I was quite happy with them. How do you use your car?

Thanks for the feedback.
Canada has some weird pricing and Michelin PS4s will cost me about $600 a set more than the S04s ... and the GTS size 285/30/19 is not even available.
My car is basically a weekend warrior for drives around the area mountains with one or two track days per year and the odd auto-x.

joe6mt · 09-27-2018, 11:49 PM

B-stone are pretty quite and comfort ride on the street n highway. it grips really well in the rains too.
My conclusion? The S-04 is great alternative to PSS if you are willing to give up a little in terms of ultimate handling and grip for a bit softer ride and lower price point. The S04 are no brainer. I have 11K on the Front & rear still remain 7/32 F and 5/32 R
PS4S is an incredible tire. The outgoing PSS was already better than the S04 in most respects. I ran them all 3.

Dave07997S · 09-28-2018, 12:23 PM

The SO4s are an older tire, they also have a much firmer ride than the PS4s. Some people like this, in overall performance the PS4 is a better tire. We are talking about a street tire here. On the street you would have to push these cars where its go straight to jail if ever caught to get to the max capabilities of these tires. The SO4s are also 4-5 lbs heavier than the Mich counterparts in both the older PSS and the PS4s.

Dave

Montaver · 09-28-2018, 02:30 PM

I'd look at the Extreme Contact Sport, performance on par with PSS but around 20% cheaper. New tyre which replaces the Conti DW.

09-24-2018, 07:52 PM	#1
scrammer Captain 422 Rep 735 Posts Drives: 2017 M3 Ultimate Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: BC - Canada iTrader: (0)	pilots or poles I am just wondering if anyone has experience with Potenza S04 Pole Position tires? I'm thinking of moving away from Michelin which I've had for all of my ///M cars but the S04's are a lot cheaper (at least in Canada) and they come in GTS sizes ... any input would be appreciated!!! I know these tires have been around a while (I did the search) but things change over time and I look forward to your input. __________________ Current ///M: 2017 M3 Ultimate Past ///M Cars: E92 M3 ZCP 'CDN LRP' … E85 Z4M-R ... E92 M3 ZCP Frozen ... E90 M3 ... E46 M3 Cab ... E46 M3 ZCP ... E46 M3 Last edited by scrammer; 09-25-2018 at 09:10 AM..
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Iyzmi Lieutenant Colonel 802 Rep 1,566 Posts Drives: E92 M3 6MT ESS625 Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Midwest iTrader: (1)	I had S04 and currently have PS4S. Daily driving there is no perceivable difference whatsoever. Haven't had a chance to push the car much since I got the Michelins but I expect them to be better since they are the latest generation of the benchmark in this tire class. With that said, I never felt the S04 tires were lacking and I was quite happy with them. How do you use your car? __________________
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09-27-2018, 11:49 PM	#4
joe6mt Private First Class 65 Rep 131 Posts Drives: 2012 M3/6MT Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Illinois iTrader: (3)	B-stone are pretty quite and comfort ride on the street n highway. it grips really well in the rains too. My conclusion? The S-04 is great alternative to PSS if you are willing to give up a little in terms of ultimate handling and grip for a bit softer ride and lower price point. The S04 are no brainer. I have 11K on the Front & rear still remain 7/32 F and 5/32 R PS4S is an incredible tire. The outgoing PSS was already better than the S04 in most respects. I ran them all 3. __________________ 2012 E92 M3 w/ Competition Package
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09-28-2018, 12:23 PM	#5
Dave07997S Brigadier General 720 Rep 3,964 Posts Drives: 2020 Ford Mustang GT Join Date: May 2009 Location: El Segundo, CA iTrader: (1)	The SO4s are an older tire, they also have a much firmer ride than the PS4s. Some people like this, in overall performance the PS4 is a better tire. We are talking about a street tire here. On the street you would have to push these cars where its go straight to jail if ever caught to get to the max capabilities of these tires. The SO4s are also 4-5 lbs heavier than the Mich counterparts in both the older PSS and the PS4s. Dave __________________ 2020 Ford Mustang GT 6MT PP1 444rwhp (Sold)2013 M3 Coupe-MR/BLK ZCP, 2011 M3 Coupe-MR/Blk 2007 Porsche 997C2S Speed Yellow/Blk sport seats 2004 BMW M3 Imola/Blk Last edited by Dave07997S; 09-28-2018 at 12:34 PM..
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Montaver Lieutenant Colonel 2169 Rep 1,658 Posts Drives: G87 M2 & M340i LCI Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: NY iTrader: (0)	I'd look at the Extreme Contact Sport, performance on par with PSS but around 20% cheaper. New tyre which replaces the Conti DW.
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