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The point I was trying to get across is that the OP is on PS4S tires and an endurance pad may not get enough heat generated by that tire to further warrant anything with higher torque like a PFC11. PFC08 has a low initial torque and keeps going up but very consistent gradual slope. PFC11 definitely has more bite RSL29 drops as the temps go up
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Right, but we are talking the spectrum at the lower end, as I'm pretty sure the PS4S will overheat before the brake pads do, I was unable to overheat the PFC08 brakes at Laguna Seca on my PS4S, the tires gave out before the brakes did.
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Yea, I was just looking a bit further ahead than op really needed in the case.
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Well now that OP is likely thoroughly confused... You guys sure made a mess out of suggesting a basic DE track pad to someone on 300tw tires.
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You can't compare those mu versus temperature charts between vendors. They're only useful for comparing compounds within the same vendor, similar to how UTQG numbers work.
Sorry for any confusion...what I meant by endurance pad is that they are designed to be run very hot for very long periods. If you can't keep sufficient heat in them, they suck. They will sacrifice some braking performance for longevity because a race team doesn't want to waste time changing pads multiple times. Based on that PFC graph, I wouldn't run an 11 on a car using street tires because as it heats up, you will just get into the ABS more and more, meaning you lose all modulation. The 01 or 08 look better because they provide fairly consistent mu even at "lower" temps, and lower ultimate mu that won't lock the brakes every single time you breathe on the pedal. Extremely high mu is not always what you want. Here's Hawk, BTW. Look at how flat the 60 is at almost all temps versus a 70 that needs you to maintain a certain amount of heat.
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No offense to anyone on this forum, as the track section is definitely well above average when it comes to getting advice, but OP's original post was quite vague. More information is needed to make an objective recommendation. This is why I was trying to go down the route of what their experience is, car setup, tracks they plan to frequent, etc. Blindly recommending a brand or specific pad sorta starts things off on the wrong foot.
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Honest truth for the OP... looks like you're running a stock caliper so just grab some hawks off fcp euro and warranty the crap out of them until you get into more track focused tires.
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They actually do and this is what I do for my wife's M2 Wish they sold ST60 ones. lol
edit: Fronts https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/bmw...awk-hb551g-748 Rears https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/bmw...awk-hb630g-626
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