M3/M4 vs. Tesla Model 3 Performance

[s4play]

My neighbor is a line manager at Tesla (he runs the Model S) line and he told me they can churn out nearly 1/5 the number of cars in a day compared to the Model 3 lines (1000 per day to their 250 roughly). I need to ask him what the major differences between the two assembly lines are next time....

The irony is he owns TWO Chevy Bolts at home, no Tesla.

Around NorCal, if you go to any tech parking lot, in one row you might find 10+ Model 3's, and 3-5 Model S or Model X. Yes they are that popular.

We will have one someday, just not this year - predict maybe next year when the Model Y comes out

[nicknaz]

Originally Posted by s4play

My neighbor is a line manager at Tesla (he runs the Model S) line and he told me they can churn out nearly 1/5 the number of cars in a day compared to the Model 3 lines (1000 per day to their 250 roughly). I need to ask him what the major differences between the two assembly lines are next time....

The irony is he owns TWO Chevy Bolts at home, no Tesla.

Around NorCal, if you go to any tech parking lot, in one row you might find 10+ Model 3's, and 3-5 Model S or Model X. Yes they are that popular.

We will have one someday, just not this year - predict maybe next year when the Model Y comes out

You can get 2+ bolt for the price of 1 similar mileage and year Tesla, so for a straight up commuter it’s not a bad move.

There is a ~100 car parking garage next to my workplace and there are 3-4 model 3P, 5-6 regular model 3 and some older model S so it’s almost 20% Tesla market share in the garage.

If you never left NorCal, you would definitely think EV are super common place

Have you checked out Bollinger? If I was in the market for electric SUV I’d check them out for sure.

All electric Macan supposedly on the way too. Good times for EV fans

[FC4]

LOL. I love when people compare glory runs at a drag strip and think it’s repeatable 100% of the time.

On the street, during any impromptu run either from a dig or low-speed up to 110-120 MPH...any car is playing catch up to a Tesla. My 2RS traps more than 20 MPH faster than my Model S, yet under 100 MPH, it jumps out 2-3 car lengths. Every. Single. Time.

[nicknaz]

Originally Posted by FC4

LOL. I love when people compare glory runs at a drag strip and think it’s repeatable 100% of the time.

On the street, during any impromptu run either from a dig or low-speed up to 110-120 MPH...any car is playing catch up to a Tesla. My 2RS traps more than 20 MPH faster than my Model S, yet under 100 MPH, it jumps out 2-3 car lengths. Every. Single. Time.

Actual performance aside, thanks to the new V10 software, I now have an Xbox controller in my center console to play Cuphead (on top of using the wheel and pedals for Beach Buggy). And waiting around (for people, takeout, etc.) involves watching Netflix and YouTube on the screen with surround sound.

So many options for having fun with this car. With my gasser cars it’s either canyons, or track day, or why didn’t I drive the EV again? (LTW flywheel and stage 2.5 clutch on one car, and solid flywheel and unsprung 3 puck clutch on the other, so stop and go traffic kind of trickier)

[SflBimmer8484]

Did you guys buy or lease your m3p?

[nicknaz]

Originally Posted by Andrew@ActiveAutowerke

Did you guys buy or lease your m3p?

I bought mine. It’s a keeper (and leasing rates pretty shite, in my opinion)

[SflBimmer8484]

Originally Posted by nicknaz

I bought mine. It’s a keeper (and leasing rates pretty shite, in my opinion)

Yeah but if a 3 motor comes but in 3 years It would be a easy upgrade.

[nicknaz]

Originally Posted by Andrew@ActiveAutowerke

Yeah but if a 3 motor comes but in 3 years It would be a easy upgrade.

True true.

Personally I’m more interested in FSD than more Perfomance.

Being able to sleep extra during my commute and en route to arrive and drive at the track is way more valuable than more power than what model 3p offers.

[SflBimmer8484]

Originally Posted by nicknaz

True true.

Personally I’m more interested in FSD than more Perfomance.

Being able to sleep extra during my commute and en route to arrive and drive at the track is way more valuable than more power than what model 3p offers.

As a tech guy im definitely interested int hat as well. On a leas its hard to justify paying 6k for software i ultimately wont be able to keep at the end of the day. Ill still get it though

Im replacing a 575 whp car I need all the hp I can get.

[nicknaz]

Originally Posted by Andrew@ActiveAutowerke

As a tech guy im definitely interested int hat as well. On a leas its hard to justify paying 6k for software i ultimately wont be able to keep at the end of the day. Ill still get it though

Im replacing a 575 whp car I need all the hp I can get.

Don’t be worried. My friend replaced a 700hp e63 with model 3P and is fine

But keep your gasser and get base model 3 as a daily

[Humdizzle]

Originally Posted by nicknaz

True true.

Personally I’m more interested in FSD than more Perfomance.

Being able to sleep extra during my commute and en route to arrive and drive at the track is way more valuable than more power than what model 3p offers.

same. once full self driving is available without the driver needing to pay attention... i'm all in for the tesla bandwagon.

Being able to sleep 8-10 hours while the car takes me to Chicago or Denver for a weekend trip would be amazing. leave at night, and arrive in the morning refreshed having spent nothing. It would be way better than flying and getting a rental at the destination.

[jzmundy]

I have a GLC63 on order but can't stop thinking about a Model 3P. It makes the most sense for my commute, but I also kind of want one last hoorah (4.0 V8TT) before going electric...decisions, decisions...

[blockdoc]

Originally Posted by jzmundy

I have a GLC63 on order but can't stop thinking about a Model 3P. It makes the most sense for my commute, but I also kind of want one last hoorah (4.0 V8TT) before going electric...decisions, decisions...

We will all be on the numb electrics soon enough with no going back. Enjoy the golden age/last hurrah of high HP RWD while you can.

[blockdoc]

Originally Posted by nicknaz

Actual performance aside, thanks to the new V10 software, I now have an Xbox controller in my center console to play Cuphead (on top of using the wheel and pedals for Beach Buggy). And waiting around (for people, takeout, etc.) involves watching Netflix and YouTube on the screen with surround sound.

So many options for having fun with this car. With my gasser cars it's either canyons, or track day, or why didn't I drive the EV again? (LTW flywheel and stage 2.5 clutch on one car, and solid flywheel and unsprung 3 puck clutch on the other, so stop and go traffic kind of trickier)

Xbox controller in a car? Eeew

[cotmfk]

Originally Posted by jzmundy

I have a GLC63 on order but can't stop thinking about a Model 3P. It makes the most sense for my commute, but I also kind of want one last hoorah (4.0 V8TT) before going electric...decisions, decisions...

If you want one last hurrah - I don't think an SUV is the right call. Just my opinion. Maybe look for something a bit more performance oriented or raw?

[SflBimmer8484]

Originally Posted by nicknaz

Don’t be worried. My friend replaced a 700hp e63 with model 3P and is fine

But keep your gasser and get base model 3 as a daily

One of our customers with a f12 M6 Stage 1 tune raced his brother who has a M3p

https://www.instagram.com/p/B2_-NMpg..._web_copy_link

[doberzus]

Originally Posted by Andrew@ActiveAutowerke

One of our customers with a f12 M6 Stage 1 tune raced his brother who has a M3p

https://www.instagram.com/p/B2_-NMpg..._web_copy_link

I know the M6 is a vert, but that stage 1 tune should def offset the weight.

What speed was the roll from? The fact that it took the M6 about 8-9 seconds to finally catch up to the M3P says it all. They were going 110MPH+ when the M6 finally caught up but then they had to brake.

If this was from a dig it would have taken the M6 even longer to catch it.

[afadeev]

Originally Posted by nicknaz

I bought mine. It’s a keeper (and leasing rates pretty shite, in my opinion)

I bought mine as well.
Tesla lease rates and residuals are woefully unattractive, similar to Audi's.

Originally Posted by Andrew@ActiveAutowerke

Yeah but if a 3 motor comes but in 3 years It would be a easy upgrade.

3's are not slated to get 3-motor/plaid drivetrain. Only S's and X's.

And frankly, improving on 3.2 second 0-60 times is almost silly. I hardly ever go full throttle on TM3P as my passengers find acceleration just too abrupt to enjoy.

It also scares and surprises other drivers on the road, since my car does things, and shows up in places, where no-one had expected it to be. This leads to many weird situations where people try to merge right on top of my 3P, because it wasn't there a second ago when they had looked at the side mirrors.

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[jzmundy]

Originally Posted by cotmfk

If you want one last hurrah - I don't think an SUV is the right call. Just my opinion. Maybe look for something a bit more performance oriented or raw?

My current daily is a ZCP F80 w/ 6MT and honestly I'm over the "rawness" on my highway commute. The GLC affords me a little more flexibility. Plus, I just like it.

[SflBimmer8484]

Originally Posted by doberzus

I know the M6 is a vert, but that stage 1 tune should def offset the weight.

What speed was the roll from? The fact that it took the M6 about 8-9 seconds to finally catch up to the M3P says it all. They were going 110MPH+ when the M6 finally caught up but then they had to brake.

If this was from a dig it would have taken the M6 even longer to catch it.

its a coupe and it says 30roll and 60mph roll. They also raced when the m6 was stock the M3p beat it by even more from a roll. https://www.instagram.com/p/B1r2-aVAPwc/

[SflBimmer8484]

Originally Posted by afadeev

I bought mine as well.
Tesla lease rates and residuals are woefully unattractive, similar to Audi's.



3's are not slated to get 3-motor/plaid drivetrain. Only S's and X's.

And frankly, improving on 3.2 second 0-60 times is almost silly. I hardly ever go full throttle on TM3P as my passengers find acceleration just too abrupt to enjoy.

It also scares and surprises other drivers on the road, since my car does things, and shows up in places, where no-one had expected it to be. This leads to many weird situations where people try to merge right on top of my 3P, because it wasn't there a second ago when they had looked at the side mirrors.

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I want more top end 3.2 0-60 is plenty .

[doberzus]

Originally Posted by Andrew@ActiveAutowerke

its a coupe and it says 30roll and 60mph roll. They also raced when the m6 was stock the M3p beat it by even more from a roll. https://www.instagram.com/p/B1r2-aVAPwc/

Wow, that is from a ROLL as I already mentioned. Imagine from a dig?

I posted my run in with my TTRS a few pages back. I set up a few runs with a buddy who had a M3P with aftermarket wheels/tires (noticeably heavier than stock) and a driver who was 100+ pounds more than me. When he not only got me from a dig, but took me to gapple-bees from a roll? I was sold on this M3P and I knew it meant business.

That TTRS was a beast and in two years of ownership I have never really lost to anything like that. Maybe a 1/2 or 1/4 of a car....but this Tesla puts bus lengths on almost anything from a dig or low roll (10-40MPH)