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      12-31-2012, 12:45 PM   #1
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Blown motors, Rod Bearing failure S65 Registry.

All these blown motors due to bearing problems has me VERY concerned now. Most people describe a ticking sound from 1,600 -2,000 RPM that's pretty subtle but present at idle. It was first thought that this mainly occurred to 2008 cars, but more lately, there have been a few 2010+ cars with the same issue and most with very low mileage.

If your car crapped out (ie loss of power) on you WHILE DRIVING, PLEASE file a complaint with the NHTS here:

https://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/Vehicl...nt/index.xhtml

MAYBE, they can put some pressure on BMW to do something about this issue, like at least extend the warranty.



LINK to a more detailed list by Assimilator1: https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...postcount=2514



I'd like to start a registry JUST IN CASE this problem starts to show up more and more as these cars show up in more numbers.
My quick search shows these case.
Please add any other cases you see here. I'm hoping this will show up on a Google search and more people out there will find this thread and add to it. I'm really hoping we don't have an S54 situation with our motors too.

maicol76: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...lure+%2Bengine

RenoE92M3: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...lure+%2Bengine

zOOm: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...lure+%2Bengine

MathewDavid: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...lure+%2Bengine

Gatchaman: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...7&postcount=51

I LOVE MY M3: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...1&postcount=38

taleof2bricks: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...lure+%2Bengine

DLSJ5: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...lure+%2Bengine
Blown motor, but the same ticking sound many have described before the engine fails.

armorrig: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...lure+%2Bengine
Possible case here, but no follow-up. Vids have since been removed.

elmariachi: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=309484

h4nh: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...8&postcount=36

Brooklyn Mark: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=849394

e90m3 6MT: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...&postcount=170

Boxed: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...&postcount=189

jacobe92: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...&postcount=185

Sti2e92sedan: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=848000

M3NST3R: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...&postcount=176

Canadian ///M: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=866284

zgirl1999: http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/fina...83276/?start=0

bigtracing: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...&postcount=173

Artem@ONEighty: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=904414

Elvace: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=919720

kinnsella: http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...engine-failure

HapaM3: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...&postcount=189

JDATX: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=962907

amg893 (AUS): http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=981574

foolio2: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...&postcount=204

brandfay: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1010723

Agent Orange (AUS): http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1018927

Maybe 5 other cases in Oz??: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...02&postcount=4

Crusher: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1021041

e93 jonesy: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...6&postcount=11

BMW Fanatik: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...5&postcount=16

stubble: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...&postcount=228

mkoesel: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1006152

REDBULL: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...3&postcount=56

Potentially 3 cases in Spain: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...3&postcount=48

TrakBch: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...&postcount=196

JRLittle: http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=439844

magicknife: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...&postcount=167

neilm3: http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=725873

LoonR1: http://www.pistonheads.com/gAssing/t...603.16085&nmt=

Malek@MRF: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...&postcount=373

Five potential cases in Bahrain by 0-60Motorsports: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...&postcount=419

antonio010: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...&postcount=448

oreokid24: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1025948

Here are 4 in Europe:
fer316: http://www.bmwfaq.com/threads/a-algu...r-o-si.597855/

tar0D: http://www.bmwfaq.com/threads/motor-m3-e92-roto.723831/

tobillin: http://www.bmwfaq.com/threads/motor-...-fotos.722637/

ellekz: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1029385

BMW M3 Guy: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=945034

JYTSky: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...&postcount=652

M33DDIE (UK): http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...&postcount=654

PERFM3: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...&postcount=691

mtecnic: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1047308

xccess: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1040861

vmudry: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1068649

theboss1853: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...&postcount=928

ellekz (second motor): http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1080379

avusm3: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...&postcount=988

Oxymoron: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...postcount=1003

Antonio1988: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1097105

IIAp3X: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1119912

maloo: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...postcount=1019

At Eurotic of Houston: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...2&postcount=14

TTO909: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...postcount=1027

Gabergab: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...2#post18031972

Ging: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1129480

Zzhou's friend in China: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...3&postcount=50

bqureshi: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...postcount=1086

2jzinsider: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...postcount=1098

serg87: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1177162

serj.ru: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1186430

Grk_M3: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...postcount=3108

Pepper135i: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...postcount=1170

WkboardAtx: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...postcount=1176

Thekhwaj: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...postcount=1186

MrFeisty: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...postcount=1190

BostonS65: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...postcount=1202

chamoloco: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...postcount=1238

///MTex: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...2&postcount=31

turbomaniac: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...4#post19664744

Omni2702: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1245300

335m: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...postcount=1247

CHIEFKIEF: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...&postcount=269

ifly747: http://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/sh...291539-M3-Down

MFKN3 (4 more in Oz): http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...postcount=1336

decimation1: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...07&postcount=2

Bel-Tirid's friend: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...37&postcount=4

MPACT: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...postcount=1347

williemandowa: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1259012

Sonny-Heyman: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1262599

Sascha Ernst: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...postcount=1400

chief: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...postcount=1404

Page Not Found: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...11&postcount=7

Squartus on replaced WPC bearings: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...postcount=1443

bxchino_m3: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...postcount=1480

HeaTHeR_aK: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...&postcount=280

Wtlitng: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...&postcount=281

ase2dais (likely case): http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...&postcount=267

FrazerBoy (UK): http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...postcount=1582

e92Mjunky: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1252339

M3ForMe93: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...postcount=1717

Rahstar: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...postcount=1727

houston: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...postcount=1743

JFWM3 (supercharged): http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...postcount=1756

E92NJM3: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1325073

romemmy: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1330468

OnAFriday: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1340571

Doc Oc's friend main bearing failure: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...postcount=1795

jobe main bearing failure: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1335208

Seattle Craig's List Post: http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/cto/5963979013.html

M3E90SF: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1346145

jaye92:http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1348955

dpdoughty: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1344612

Hovig24: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1352866

grantwoodOK: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...postcount=1859

SSR Performance customer: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...5&postcount=30

tacoman: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...2&postcount=35

Twosevennine: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1384977

EYXB: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...5#post21750685

Twosevennine: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1384977

GSTE34: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1406142

benbejamin18: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1400835

LatifE90: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...postcount=1892

Ruben7520: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1412102

EAS customer: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...&postcount=122

M3ANMACHINE (main bearing): http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...6#post22321026

yeah_knee: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...&postcount=215

besiktas: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...postcount=1923

Duk996: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1427927

Nugget: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...&postcount=198

maxe93: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...1#post22438849

jonshmoe: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...postcount=1947

zeemy: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...&postcount=314

Inflame's boss: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...postcount=1966

spr: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1452984

fastmvr: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...5&postcount=55

Nilick: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...postcount=1999

Jmags41: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...postcount=2033

deansbimmer: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...postcount=2046

maicol76: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1481770

Fstylin: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...&postcount=393

Engine from Jamaica: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...postcount=2115

StuttgartBMW: https://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/s...knocking-sound

steven747: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...postcount=3220

nastynogales: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1498477

amrazM3: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...4#post23259554

Redish Automotive from Jamaica:


bimmer414: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1506381

New_m3: https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...9&postcount=81

Codinge90: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?p=23399115

fastmvr's son: https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...2&postcount=76

Ruben7520: https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1412102

Lexshive: https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=413

JTHOR312: https://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/s...-m3-s65-engine

Bluestorm: https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1540945

cblack201: https://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/s...r-Shift-Rattle

JTHOR312: https://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/s...-m3-s65-engine

In Belgium 2016: https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...postcount=2265

T!M@: https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...postcount=1161

SY_Shadow: https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1520978

After Burnout: https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1545886

2006325i: https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1565239

bmwlover0725: https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1565421

aardchua: https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1573810

aznazasin: https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1587320

MoonShot: https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1587698

bmwlover0725: https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1565421

deansbimmer customers x 2: https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...postcount=2349

dgoldenz: https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...postcount=2353

Griffith500: https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1615517

Excers (BE Bearing): https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1622510

frazierrg: https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...postcount=2375

bblefas: https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=875349

M3_Singh: https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...postcount=2385

bmwlover0725: https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1635416

scaryharry19: https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1639850

drifts500: https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1464716

kuy902: https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...5&postcount=13

tweny: https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1641148

jazzy1999's mechanic: https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1651790

superbang: https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...8&postcount=17

bergerking: https://www.m3post.com/forums/showth...6#post25368346
x2nervisx: https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1669484

Kobaiyashi: https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1670660

kiquos: https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=430

ebay car with blown motor: https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...postcount=2478

ebay with blown motor: https://www.m3post.com/forums/showth...86615&page=113

Nugget main bearing: https://www.m3post.com/forums/showth...1153809&page=6

deansbimmer with 5 motors in the shop: https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...postcount=2467

shakeywarrior: https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=199

M3drop: https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1722921

Kelse92: https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...postcount=2518

deansbimmer 6 customers: https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...postcount=2520

Carlow: https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1732937

ThatM3guy: https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...postcount=2531

Alexand3r: https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1594746

diargon: https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1739454

jackmahoney (broken valve): https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1751543

MShift: https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...7&postcount=19

openroad9: https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1782082

kmberger8: https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...postcount=2572

NWRNRN21: https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1843740

jvictormp: https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...postcount=2624

lauz: https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1934693

steezye93m3: https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1928049

8lueM3: https://www.m3post.com/forums/showth...8#post28623708


This was one of the early cases I remember. I can't seem to find the thread here.


This one is new to me:



There's a bunch on YouTube:


There are a LOT more on YouTube. We only have a small percentage of owners who are members here. I'm sure there are people who don't notice the ticking or don't want to potentially label their car as damaged for resale value purposes, but this is best way to show BMW there is a problem if your motor blows. It's basically how the S54 guys had their engines fixed by BMW when a bunch of cases started showing up on the net.
PLEASE add to this thread if you know of other cases.

Here's a very nice compilation of engine failures broken down by state and year by senorfunkypants. http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=935368

If you're in California and your engine blew, check out this thread where the tuxblackedo got a buy back after the warranty expired by getting a lawyer involved: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=894665
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Let me get this straight... You are swapping out parts designed by some of the top engineers in the world because some guys sponsored by a company told you it's "better??" But when you ask the same guy about tracking, "oh no, I have a kid now" or "I just detailed my car." or "i just got new tires."

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IMO this is NO WAY like s54 cover up issue and no need for worry. My car is 5 years old and runs great. Sure it makes noise, but they all do. As far as bearings are concerned, people like to think it's the bearings ala e46 m3, but there has been no proof at all that the bearings are any different in the newer 2013 cars. Also I think the problem lies in the bedplate/windage tray. As some cars have had repairs to the bedplate and been fine. Possible slightly misaligned or certain stresses during or after assembly causing them to fail. Only a few cars have really failed (throwing rods out blocks and such)..

Anyways, curious to see the responses
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Weren't the E46 and early E9X issues more of a bearing clearance issue vs just crappy bearings?
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IMO this is NO WAY like s54 cover up issue and no need for worry. My car is 5 years old and runs great. Sure it makes noise, but they all do. As far as bearings are concerned, people like to think it's the bearings ala e46 m3, but there has been no proof at all that the bearings are any different in the newer 2013 cars. Also I think the problem lies in the bedplate/windage tray. As some cars have had repairs to the bedplate and been fine. Possible slightly misaligned or certain stresses during or after assembly causing them to fail. Only a few cars have really failed (throwing rods out blocks and such)..

Anyways, curious to see the responses
Agreed, no doubt some guys have had issues and that's very unfortunate, but it's nothing like the S54.
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You guys take me too literally. What I mean is, BMW initially said the blown S54's were do to driver error, ie overreved. Then the SMG cars started blowing too and they still denied there was a problem.
If we have a list of bearing problems here, then BMW won't be able to say it's not an issue at all. The S54 was so bad, then essentially did a recall.
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i think this is a great idea, never hurts to be safe and document what failures there are just in case it gets out of hand
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You guys take me too literally. What I mean is, BMW initially said the blown S54's were do to driver error, ie overreved. Then the SMG cars started blowing too and they still denied there was a problem.
If we have a list of bearing problems here, then BMW won't be able to say it's not an issue at all. The S54 was so bad, then essentially did a recall.
I don't think your thread is a bad idea at all, I just don't see this as being on the same level that the S54 rod bearing issue was.
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S65 bearing issue is way overhyped - it's a very high revving V8 with tight tolerances, and given the production numbers it's probable for a few people to have problems
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S65 bearing issue is way overhyped - it's a very high revving V8 with tight tolerances, and given the production numbers it's probable for a few people to have problems
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Although these issues may be overhyped, I think it's great that aus put together a registry of motors that have had serious problems. Hopefully there won't be any to add to the list and if there are more failures it would be great to see them referenced here in the future.
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S65 bearing issue is way overhyped - it's a very high revving V8 with tight tolerances, and given the production numbers it's probable for a few people to have problems
I agree with you and see your point, but tell me this. If you start hearing ticking from your engine, and the dealer says it's nothing, which thread are you going to go searching for as soon as you get home?



I know there were older threads on the ticking sound, but can't find them, so if anyone comes across one, please post them in this thread.

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This is a great thread. God forbid I ever have to post concrete info about the topic though!!
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This is a great thread. God forbid I ever have to post concrete info about the topic though!!
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From someone who has the tick, thanks for putting this together.
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Although these issues may be overhyped, I think it's great that aus put together a registry of motors that have had serious problems. Hopefully there won't be any to add to the list and if there are more failures it would be great to see them referenced here in the future.
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IMO this is NO WAY like s54 cover up issue and no need for worry. My car is 5 years old and runs great. Sure it makes noise, but they all do. As far as bearings are concerned, people like to think it's the bearings ala e46 m3, but there has been no proof at all that the bearings are any different in the newer 2013 cars. Also I think the problem lies in the bedplate/windage tray. As some cars have had repairs to the bedplate and been fine. Possible slightly misaligned or certain stresses during or after assembly causing them to fail. Only a few cars have really failed (throwing rods out blocks and such)..

Anyways, curious to see the responses
Agreed. That last one with the pics and supposed "oil filter causing failure" did show an issue with only 1 main. Making me assume out of alignment or machining flaw.
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This is a great thread. God forbid I ever have to post concrete info about the topic though!!
Aren't you getting new bearings soon
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S65 bearing issue is way overhyped - it's a very high revving V8 with tight tolerances, and given the production numbers it's probable for a few people to have problems
Over hyped? This represents more documented blown motors than seen on the more produced N54/N55.

And The forum only represent a small fraction of M3 owners...

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The 2 first videos don't even sound like the same issues to me? I've heard the loud ticking noise in person (very first video) and there is nothing subtle about it.
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Over hyped? This represents more documented blown motors than seen on the more produced N54/N55.

And The forum only represent a small fraction of M3 owners...
what the forum represents is a small limited number of onwers yes; but only the negative posts come through; No one posts, "hey my car runs fine" you only hear the negatives or poblems. Not too mention how many M3 are on the road w/out problems and that don't post on a forum at all. I think you're exaggerating the problem.
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what the forum represents is a small limited number of onwers yes; but only the negative posts come through; No one posts, "hey my car runs fine" you only hear the negatives or poblems. Not too mention how many M3 are on the road w/out problems and that don't post on a forum at all. I think you're exaggerating the problem.
How about the blown engines that arent reported because their owners were asked or dont post on the foruns? There are by far more N55's on the road than the S65 yet there more documented cases of blown s65's.

I know of another case on bimmerfest that was reported only because BMW NA denied warranty on a blown engine and accused the good Dr of overreving his DCT causing the engine failure.
Most people sign the BMW release, get a new engine and keep quiet. The low production s65 has more catastrophic engine failures than the N54 .
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Can someone explain what the NClass motors and their failure/lack of failure rate has to do with the S65?





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How about the blown engines that arent reported because their owners were asked or dont post on the foruns? There are by far more N55's on the road than the S65 yet there more documented cases of blown s65's.

I know of another case on bimmerfest that was reported only because BMW NA denied warranty on a blown engine and accused the good Dr of overreving his DCT causing the engine failure.
Most people sign the BMW release, get a new engine and keep quiet. The low production s65 has more catastrophic engine failures than the N54 .
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