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At the end of the day, everyone has to make their own risk assessments. If I'm in a car with an advanced driver who is going balls out because they want in car help to shave off another tenth of a second, I'll do that, but only if they have full safety gear. And it should be said that nobody should feel compelled to ride in a car that they personally don't feel safe in, regardless of the equipment or "standards" that are in place. |
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1. For pure fun, or 2. For fun AND education I do it for #2. I want to be a better driver, as I have a goal of doing wheel to wheel racing in the next year or two. Even as an instructor, I will always accept a passenger who can potentially offer me advice or a different perspective. My wife is solidly in #1. She dislikes having an instructor because she feels like she's having a less relaxed, fun time. But she understands she needs one to be a safe, smooth, and aware HPDE driver. She runs solo but sometimes has another instructor ride shotgun for tips and tricks. Not me, as we don't want to get divorced |
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If I see a car is modded so much that I'm surprised the guy got it to the cold pits without rolling it, and it's anything but an A driver (and I'll still give the A driver a once over), I'm asking things about goals and then dropping the "what's your tire pressure?, what'd you torque your lug bolts to? when'd you last check torque?" Assuming the driver can answer the questions w/o my BS detector going off, I'll then evaluate the warm up lap. As we are just past a worker station, I'll ask if the corner worker had a beard or mustache. Especially love doing that after going by a woman corner worker. Of course, if the safety equipment looks haphazard, all bets are off. I'm not getting de-nutted by a poorly fitted sub strap regardless if Lewis Hamilton is driving (especially not getting in if Verstappen or Grosjean is driving!).
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Just commenting as I am in almost the same position as OP and found this thread very useful. Thanks for all the insight from those more experienced!
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I'm still finding that any time I have a good instructor in the car, I learn something really useful. That may be because I have lucked upon good instructors, or it may be because I only have 86 track days in my log book so far.
Also I find I can't drive very well if my brain is baked. So I paddock near the bathroom and make sure I drink enough water that I'm visiting it more than I would really like. And staying out of the sun. It's always nice to see another person get bitten by the bug. |
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07-25-2018, 10:38 PM | #73 | |
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Well said...I didn't paddock near the bathroom last time. I find I don't drive so good when I'm trying to decide whether I can make another lap before I piss myself.
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Thank you so much for this. I have no idea why I did not think of that myself, but damn... this made ALL the difference. Didn't have to remove rear seat and I successfully packed all my wheels, tools, jack, etc no problem at all. Just awesome
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07-26-2018, 11:14 PM | #76 | |
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Everyone should practice getting out of their harnesses and the car as quickly as possible in case of a fire. And in case of potty breaks.
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I'm no star but have over 100 track days and with all types of groups. It sounds like you are a data guy but for those others reading who may be like me who is a " feel" guy and who is there primarily for fun but also want to improve, I feel getting to caught up into date acquisition can hinder you if you ate a more "feel" type. Analogy is to look at how many golfers screwed up their swing by over data approach. So just make sure you aren't forcing an overly data driven approach if that's not you unless you are as n aspiring competitive racer
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That being said it's all about your objectives. Sometimes it's best to disengage the analytical side and just drive. And remember that this hobby is fun. |
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Another E92 checking in to the 4 tire club. I did remove the bottom seat cushions and the plastic cupholder thing to make it easier, but the seat backs are still in place
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I think he was talking about beginners and intermediate drivers. For advanced drivers and those who want to race competitively data analysis is the only way to improve as a driver. For instance, I seem to improve my lap times after analyzing my track videos almost every time.
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crzydave17 couldn't convinced me that turning in super early into a turn. Tried it, felt weird and slow but the data said otherwise.
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Early turn in is almost always faster but you can run out of the road on the exit, so beginners should be careful...
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If you've got a basic proficiency with algebra and physics, then read this book to look at WHY early turn-in is faster (among a thousand other things he covers).
https://www.amazon.com/Fast-Car-Phys.../dp/0801898234
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Especially if you wear a hans. I hooked that damn thing on the roll cage more times than not getting out of the car (have to slither over the "X" bars on the door side don't forget).
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The real key is knowing which corners to use early turn in on.
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including the tires i was rolling on, i moved 12 tires and a track tools.
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Spent the weekend driving in the rain at Mid Ohio. Overcame my fear of driving on track in the rain, although it was a little stressful lol. Every person who told me to not puss out when it's raining and get my butt out there because you learn SO much driving in the rain... well, they were right I managed to catch the car every time she stepped out, never fully spun once. Now I just need to get back to Mid Ohio sometime during a non-rainy weekend lmao, because damn, what a track.
I just wanted to put this here for any other HPDE students who might read this thread. I want to encourage everyone to drive in the rain, the car control skills you walk away with are invaluable. |
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