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12-29-2019, 07:57 PM | #1 |
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I知 looking for a set of wheels (and tires ) for once per year HPDE. Does anyone know if the APEX ARC-8 wheels go on sale at all? If I wanted to go 18x9.5 vs 18x10, what size tires and offsets do I need? Since I only do a track event 1-2 times per year, I知 looking for potentially for a used set of wheels and tires. I知 located in NY. |
12-29-2019, 08:35 PM | #2 |
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there are a few sets of apex wheels in the classifieds at the moment. i'd go 18x10 over a 18x9.5. you'll probably want to stay around a 275/35/18 tire. nobody is really buying a 9.5 width for the track.
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a better investment might be a very accurate tire gauge and a quality 20' hose. most tracks have air or nitrogen and you could hookup easily to manage pressures. i'm not sure i would trust a cost efficient tpms solution that claims to give independent accurate tire pressure. i have and enjoy this one. longacre is renowned for accurate and quality products. this air chuck allows you to quickly check and add or bleed off a little pressure. https://www.amazon.com/Longacre-5300...%2C195&sr=8-15
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12-29-2019, 09:08 PM | #6 |
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Honestly, if you’re just going to go 1-2 times a year. Just drive the car on some Michelin 4S’s... it’s not worth spending 2000+ and the hassle and storage on a set of wheels and tires for a couple times a year...
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We can sell OEM TPMS sensors with the wheels or separately. If you do decide to order these, PM us the last 7 digits of your VIN to confirm we have the correct part #. This fitment of wheel is currently on sale in our EC-7 and FL-5 design in select finishes. If you want to stick to the ARC-8s, we are planning on running an early group buy with more information coming mid-January. Let us know if you need more info! Thanks -Tom
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I would agree with this. Just use whatever is already on the car and save your money.
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Good advice overall, but I知 getting to the point where the HPDE weekend I do (Calabogie), my street tires are getting destroyed. i currently have a bit more thread left on my current MPS, but since I only put 2000 miles per year, those tires will last me another summer.
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Stock suspension? Car needs a lot of negative camber up front to balance out tire wear. -2.5 was borderline ok with street tires, -3.5 now wears very evenly for me. I was able to get -1.7 stock, -2.5 with dinan camber plates, and -3.5 or more with coilovers
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Thank you Tom - I値l look forward to the group but! (Someone mentioned a decent discount recently, but I missed an opportunity). I was hoping to pick up a used set, as I知 not sure if I wanted to spend $2500-$3000 for a set of wheels and tires. |
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To get more you need parts others listed above and depending on which way you go yes things do get pricey when changing suspension components. I am in similar situation to yours. Plan on tracking m3 on my stock 18" wheels w michelin pss and down the road if I do get hooked and am able to track more than couple of times a yr get a set of dedicated track wheels. |
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What is destroying them, exactly? Camber wear? Chunking? Overheating? I would agree 100% that an alignment will slow that down, as will proper tire pressure management. The MPSS is capable of handling mild track use without totally disintegrating, assuming you manage them appropriately.
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One option is to go with a set of dedicated track wheels and tires. The typical 18x10ET25 is popular and fits well. However, for one or two events a year, I have to wonder if you'd be better off getting camber plates, then replacing your current tires with something like the RE71r. Camber plates make a huge difference in tire wear. You can also get them aligned in a way that the plate has a street setting and a track setting, each with the appropriate amount of toe, meaning a single alignment cost and you adjust to track/street right at the track. Camber plates work on OEM suspension and can be installed 'DIY'. And then if you get coilovers one day you can reuse them. A good street/track tire like the RE71 has perfectly good road manners, is decent in rain and even in the correct fitments for your OEM wheels is really fast. I have 6 sets of 10.5" wheels for my E90 and F80 track cars plus a 10" apex wild card set, however, I have also tracked my regular wheels and the car can be retardedly fast with them as long as you have good tires, and with camber plates they don't get destroyed. Not having to store an additional set of wheels/tires is a big advantage in my mind. For 1 or 2 weekends... you don't track enough to get anything out of the wider front wheel |
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https://www.bimmerworld.com/Suspensi...E9X-M3-1M.html You would only get an alignment once. The rest you would do yourself at track events when you switch from one to the other After that, to move to a 'track' setting you'd just jack up one front wheel, move the plate to a preset spot and then repeat for the other side. Then when you're done you'd lift again and put the plate in another preset spot. It's super easy to do and avoids any compromises. At the track you'd have camber and toe for the track. On the street your toe would be spot on and you'd have a little bit more camber than you would otherwise, but that without bad toe does very little to your tires
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