BMW M3 E92 DCT 0-60 time??

[bmwrjs]

What is the 0-60 time for the E92 M3 M-DCT, From what I have heard it is 3.9 sec

[yemenmocha]

Originally Posted by bmwrjs

What is the 0-60 time for the E92 M3 M-DCT, From what I have heard it is 3.9 sec

Whoa way optimistic there. BMW says 4.5 for DCT, 4.7 manual. The 'vert is in the low 5 second range. You might see some mags post a little lower in the 4's but it certainly isn't a 3.X car. It's not made for drag racing so that's fine with me.

[bmwrjs]

huhhhh????, because car and driver tested a manual coupe and got a 4.1 which implies that the dct coupe would be 3.9 (.2 seconds ) and cars direct tested a 3.9

[photogS]

I doubt in real word any sane person is going to get the numbers 'Car & Driver' got. Not unless you want to break the differential. Besides, their numbers are with 1 foot roll, not from a standstill IIRC.
4.5-4.7s is more realistic

[swamp2]

Best 4.1 s
Average from mags: about 4.4 s
Worst: 4.7s

Note US and EU test differently in the US we have the 1 foot roll out. This gives times about 0.3s faster for the same run.

Full "database" of results here right on this forum.

[H Bomb]

so it has the same 0-60mph time as the M5/M6???

if that is so i am assuming the M5/M6 would take the lead after 60mph being a V10 it should have the advantage up top??

[DiamondGCoupe]

M6 probably before 60 but yes in the end the M5/M6 would pull ahead.

[domobrown]

0-60 seems to be the next most important thing to 'Ring times these days. Oh well, M3 does 60 in 4.1 from what I've read.

[mrkbbd]

Originally Posted by domobrown

0-60 seems to be the next most important thing to 'Ring times these days. Oh well, M3 does 60 in 4.1 from what I've read.

Let's be honest here, we're not going to get a 4.1s 0-60 time the vast majority of the time, if the car can break loose from a standstill 2nd gear start at half throttle, there is no way we're going to get enough traction off the line in an everyday situation to even come close, BMW's #s of 4.5/4.7 are probably what we should expect on a good run, 4.1 if everything goes absolutely perfect and your diff explodes.

[SenorFunkyPants]

Originally Posted by H Bomb

so it has the same 0-60mph time as the M5/M6???

if that is so i am assuming the M5/M6 would take the lead after 60mph being a V10 it should have the advantage up top??

Well its mostly all about torque, gearing and weight, which is why the M5 only starts to pull ahead after 100 mph.

[swamp2]

Originally Posted by SenorFunkyPants

Well its mostly all about torque, gearing and weight, which is why the M5 only starts to pull ahead after 100 mph.

In general yes but in this case it is all about hp.

[991GT3]

Here's Edmunds take on roll out.


"A Few Words About Rollout
The term "rollout" might not be familiar, but it comes from the drag strip. The arrangement of the timing beams for drag racing can be confusing, primarily because the 7-inch separation between the "pre-stage" and "stage" beams is not the source of rollout. The pre-stage beam, which has no effect on timing, is only there to help drivers creep up to the starting position. Rollout comes from the 1-foot separation (11.5 inches, actually) between the point where the leading edge of a front tire "rolls in" to the final staging beam — triggering the countdown to the green light that starts the race — and the point where the trailing edge of that tire "rolls out" of that same beam, the triggering event that starts the clock. A driver skilled at "shallow staging" can therefore get almost a free foot of untimed acceleration before the clock officially starts, effectively achieving a rolling-start velocity of 3-5 mph and shaving the 0.3 second it typically takes to cover that distance off his elapsed time (ET) in the process.

We believe the use of rollout for quarter-mile timed runs is appropriate, as this test is designed to represent an optimum drag strip run that a car owner can replicate at a drag strip. In the spirit of consistency, we also follow NHRA practice when calculating quarter-mile trap speed at the end of the run. So we publish the average speed over the final 66 feet of the quarter-mile run, even though our VBOX can tell us the instantaneous speed at the end of the 1,320-foot course, which is usually faster.

On the other hand, the use of rollout with 0-60 times is inappropriate in our view. For one, 0-60-mph acceleration is not a drag-racing convention. More important, it's called ZERO to 60 mph, not 3 or 4 mph to 60 mph, which is what you get when you apply rollout. While it is tempting to use rollout in order to make 0-60 acceleration look more impressive by 0.3 second, thereby hyping both the car's performance and the apparent skill of the test driver, we think it's cheating.

Nevertheless, some car magazines and some automobile manufacturers use rollout anyway — and fail to tell their customers. We've decided against this practice. We publish real 0-60 times instead. But in order to illuminate this issue and ensure we do justice to every car's real performance, we've begun publishing a clearly marked "with rollout" 0-60 time alongside the primary no-rollout 0-60 time so readers can see the effects of this bogus practice."

http://www.insideline.com/features/h...nd-trucks.html

[H Bomb]

how much quicker would the diff on the M3 make it to 60mph?? or does that only help on 1/4 miles times??

[Groundhog]

^^
Depends on the shift points. If the car can hit 60 without a gear shift, then a shorter rear end would yield a possibly faster time. The BMW engineers know a fast 0-60 time is a goal so I would bet the gearing has been optimized for that benchmark.

to me 0-100 times are always more telling about the true power of the drivetrain. 0-60 is combination of grip and power.

It would be interesting to see a test of the M3 under the same conditions but with 305 series rear tires (if they can fit) compared to the stock 265's. With the extra grip and the hard launch, would the 0-60 break 4 seconds?

[swifty]

Reviving an old thread...

I see many m3s tested in Europe by the likes of MotorTrend (4.1 sec) and C&D (3.9) seem to have significantly quicker 0-60 times. Is it just the ecu tuning that's different or actual hardware also. I noticed the intake itself is different than the ones they get there so I'm guessing there's more to it.

[F1Venom]

I don't know the exact time but shifting up to 2nd gear and redlining it to 8300 feels extremely fast, especially from 6,500-8300.

[Justin Case]

Also interested in this. Personally I don't think it's a sub 4 car tbh.. Maybe 4.3 0-60 on a perfect run, warm tyres and level road, also road surface plays a big part I would imagine.

[swamp2]

Folks read my post #5 and click the link. Best recorded magazine time is 3.9s, like it or not (my post was accurate at that time but the time has been improved upon since). US magazines allow a 1 foot roll out as per US drag racing standards. This means the clock does not start until the car has moved 1 foot. This gives a time about 0.3 seconds faster than a zero rollout time which will be the type of test reported by EU magazines.

Of course there is always the additional question of the best time vs. a typical time and those have very different answers.

[dmk08]

Originally Posted by mrkbbd

Let's be honest here, we're not going to get a 4.1s 0-60 time the vast majority of the time, if the car can break loose from a standstill 2nd gear start at half throttle, there is no way we're going to get enough traction off the line in an everyday situation to even come close, BMW's #s of 4.5/4.7 are probably what we should expect on a good run, 4.1 if everything goes absolutely perfect and your diff explodes.

I would like to know what tires you are running so I never buy them lol. My E90 w/ Mich Supersports would hook up with no issue esp in 2nd gear.

[MrPrena]

As people mentioned Track AND Tire temperature has to be ideal to even reach 90% of full 0-60 potential.

I think there are people out there who just test optimal 0-60 time.

[ChrisK]

Don't forget we started seeing these faster 0-60 (3.9-4.1) times from MY 2011 forward. I have always believed this was software related to the DCT.

[CurbBender'90]

I didn't wanna create another thread for this question so here it is. What is the 0-60 time for a full bolt on M3? Mods would be tune,test pipes/xpipe,pulley, intake. I didn't want to say exhausts because that makes even more subjective because of variety of weights between.