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      08-13-2018, 09:21 AM   #23
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I've considered the F10 M5, but I don't think I can afford that (I mean I can, but it's just not wise at this time - plus I don't do car payments unless I get 0 %). Even the pre-LCI models are in the high 40's at this time. I've never driven one either, but the F80 M3 kind of biased me against F gen M cars. But who knows...maybe I'll change my mind later.
Ah, I was thinking you just meant a standard F10 5-series. I've often thought an F10 M-sport would be a great DD, but I wouldn't bother if I already had an M3.

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Do you need a ton of space? Get a 128i with the 6MT. It is the basic iteration of a modern E36 M3 with regard to size/weight/power. I loved my E36 M3 and think about the day that I can replace my beater car with an E82.

My beater now is the 2005 Mazda6 that will outlive cockroaches though. My wife bought it over ten years ago and at this point I have accepted that we will just keep it forever.
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There are a lot of cars with more soul than the Prius, so you have many choices. How about a Hyundai Accent? You can get one with a 6 speed and it will leave the Prius in the dust. And you can preserve your nice car, the E90M3, for its next owner.

Seriously, though, I would not buy an E60M5 or E39M5 thinking it would be a more economical daily driver than the E90M3. Given their ages and issues and fuel economy, likely just the opposite. I also don’t think or that the E90M3 is any more worthy of preservation than those cars.

I’d like to get a 991.1TT for a beater. Rack up the miles. Put snows on it in the winter. Get the PDK to make it faster and easier to drive in traffic.
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I drive my E90M3 year round in NH and we get a lot of snow and very cold temps. I have snow wheels for winter. I put snows on my turbo E36M3 as well. I bought and modded the cars to drive not park. But I will probably get a practical AWD car like a 991TT or E63AMG or new M5 in the future.
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I’d spend the money on the car I drive instead of the one I don’t drive, but that’s me. I want a 991.1TT PDK so I can drive it all the time including in heavy traffic (not that there’s much of it in NH) and in winter in snow. Then I can park my beat up manual turbo 99M3 and maybe turn my manual 08M3 into a track car, but will sell both if I just end up driving them occasionally.
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991TT PDK is probably my next car. Some of the new V8 turbo sedans look good, like the M5 and E63 AMG, but they are too new for used examples in my price range. For big power, I like AWD and auto/dct/PDK to put the power down and seamlessly.
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Yes! I am hoping saying it more will make it happen sooner — even the used ones aren’t cheap. I want one before I am too old to enjoy it.
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Surprised no one has brought up the big D
You can go 35d or even 28d, in a 3,5,or X. Still get the mpg's but more torque, more comfort and running costs are decent. You can even sport the wagon!
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      08-15-2018, 10:38 AM   #28
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I just bought a stroker e60 m5 to DD

The SMG makes DD painful in traffic or city slog

Do you really need a sports car for your commute? The Prius is a tin can, just get something that's more luxurious with ~300hp
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      08-16-2018, 04:47 AM   #29
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a bit off, but I didn't like the manual for my DD. Had GTI for that, quite a bit better mileage, but ended up giving it to mom. Picked up a M2 as the DD with the DCT, drives like a civic during the commute, fun after the commute. Was going to sell the M3, but am having second thoughts...

not really the M5 discussion, but for a commuter, do you really need all that room, its just you in the car, unless you are a carpooler...
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The new M2 with S55 and 400 hp would be a great all-in-one smaller car. I’d tune it to 500 rwhp. But I am not in the new car market and obviously none are used yet.
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I'd agree with others that an older m5 is the wrong answer for a commuter. It's the shit at that age that starts to break on you that could make using a car like that a major pain in the ass. Yeah you can get through most of the parts and keep her going, but then you have saved no money and are still dealing with high gas costs.

If I was looking for a commuter, and didn't need a lot of space, Miata , s2000 or gti. They are fun to drive but not powerful. they are cheap to maintain and reliable. Of the bunch the gti is the most practical as it's the most spacious. the s2000 or Miata are fun cause you can mod them as much as you like
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I'd agree with others that an older m5 is the wrong answer for a commuter. It's the shit at that age that starts to break on you that could make using a car like that a major pain in the ass. Yeah you can get through most of the parts and keep her going, but then you have saved no money and are still dealing with high gas costs.

If I was looking for a commuter, and didn't need a lot of space, Miata , s2000 or gti. They are fun to drive but not powerful. they are cheap to maintain and reliable. Of the bunch the gti is the most practical as it's the most spacious. the s2000 or Miata are fun cause you can mod them as much as you like
Agreed for older cars. I've got a 2001 Jeep XJ Cherokee that is the commuter, but even with it built as a tank and seemingly indestructible, it certainly has its quirks for a car that old with commuting mileage. It's left me stranded a couple times - not because there's an issue with the car, but because it's old and old mechanical things wear out. Cheap to fix and easy to maintain, but even with preventative maintenance you'll get those surprises that you just don't typically find with newer cars.

And you're talking about an old M car with VANOS... You think I have headaches with an old Jeep? You're in a different world with those ///Magical surprises
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Surprised no one has brought up the big D
You can go 35d or even 28d, in a 3,5,or X. Still get the mpg's but more torque, more comfort and running costs are decent. You can even sport the wagon!
F31 328dxi is the ultimate! We want one bad! Why didn't they make a 335i/340i one though??
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So just as people don't get preserving the M3, I don't get driving it everyday. It's got terrible mileage, high maintenance costs, and when new, a steep depreciation curve.

My M3 is 8 years old, and has 28k on it. I store it in winter, and only put about 1,500 miles on it a year. But the quality of those miles is what matters. Track time, back road runs, and car shows with friends are all ways to enjoy the car. Sitting behind grandma's Sentra in traffic on a Tuesday isn't enjoyment at all.

Which brings me to my daily: an F30 328. Very good gas mileage. Low maintenance costs (id know, mine has 120k on it), and with the right tires, good handling in all seasons. It's no M3, but I don't feel bad when I'm stuck behind that Sentra, which in NJ, happens often.

So, cheers to my daily, and my garage queen.
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So just as people don't get preserving the M3, I don't get driving it everyday. It's got terrible mileage, high maintenance costs, and when new, a steep depreciation curve.

My M3 is 8 years old, and has 28k on it. I store it in winter, and only put about 1,500 miles on it a year. But the quality of those miles is what matters. Track time, back road runs, and car shows with friends are all ways to enjoy the car. Sitting behind grandma's Sentra in traffic on a Tuesday isn't enjoyment at all.

Which brings me to my daily: an F30 328. Very good gas mileage. Low maintenance costs (id know, mine has 120k on it), and with the right tires, good handling in all seasons. It's no M3, but I don't feel bad when I'm stuck behind that Sentra, which in NJ, happens often.

So, cheers to my daily, and my garage queen.
Nice blue but that turbo motor and electric steering kill the F gen for me. Glad it's economical and you like it. I'd walk to work before I drive and F3X car.
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I've got an E90 M3 slicktop manual as my weekend toy... and use a Tesla Model 3 as my beater car.

Both are beasts in their own ways. But when it comes to commuting 50 miles a day in traffic the TM3 is my go to tool... just get it on the freeway, hit autopilot, sit back and relax.

However on the weekends it makes driving my V8M3 so much worth it.
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I've got an E90 M3 slicktop manual as my weekend toy... and use a Tesla Model 3 as my beater car.

Both are beasts in their own ways. But when it comes to commuting 50 miles a day in traffic the TM3 is my go to tool... just get it on the freeway, hit autopilot, sit back and relax.

However on the weekends it makes driving my V8M3 so much worth it.
I'm debating a model 3 next, but then I read stories about bumpers falling off. How's yours been?
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So just as people don't get preserving the M3, I don't get driving it everyday. It's got terrible mileage, high maintenance costs, and when new, a steep depreciation curve.

My M3 is 8 years old, and has 28k on it. I store it in winter, and only put about 1,500 miles on it a year. But the quality of those miles is what matters. Track time, back road runs, and car shows with friends are all ways to enjoy the car. Sitting behind grandma's Sentra in traffic on a Tuesday isn't enjoyment at all.

Which brings me to my daily: an F30 328. Very good gas mileage. Low maintenance costs (id know, mine has 120k on it), and with the right tires, good handling in all seasons. It's no M3, but I don't feel bad when I'm stuck behind that Sentra, which in NJ, happens often.

So, cheers to my daily, and my garage queen.
Nice blue but that turbo motor and electric steering kill the F gen for me. Glad it's economical and you like it. I'd walk to work before I drive and F3X car.
The steering is crap for sure, and I do look forward to the G series coming up as a potential replacement for the car.
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Nice blue but that turbo motor and electric steering kill the F gen for me. Glad it's economical and you like it. I'd walk to work before I drive and F3X car.
The OP is currently driving a Prius, so an F30 with the 2.0T would be a hell of an upgrade, electric steering or not.
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I'm debating a model 3 next, but then I read stories about bumpers falling off. How's yours been?
I think I’ve only read 2 instances of the rear bumper falling off and they’ve been on the east coast where ther eis heavy rain and flash flooding.

That being said I’ll check mine for missing shields or clips when I get it up in the air to install a set of MountainPassPerformance/ KW Coilovers.

With the Model 3 there’s been many quality control defects however. If you do order one be ready at delivery with a check list of things, mabe a paint meter (to make sure it wasn’t a repainted reject), bright LED paint light so you can reject it before signing the papers... Hell pay your detailer to come with you an inspection fee... lol

I spent 45 minutes going over mine before signing the last form... I got lucky with mine and have no defects.

Other than that... the drivetrain is solid on these which is something you don’t have to worry about.

If not the Model 3 I’d suggest any electric car as a daily driver.
- only maintenance is tires + brakes + keeping it clean so you can pay more attention to your M3’s needs
- The instant torque in electric cars make them very fun to drive... I use to have a Spark EV as my electric commuter and that thing had 300+ lbs of torque instantly... it was a fun little hatch
- althought the range is short for the majority of electric cars... if you plug in every night for your commute you don’t need to worry about range or getting gas... I probably buy gas once a month now for my M3.

Heck maybe get a used Chevy Spark EV as the commuter for $5k and use the left over money in the budget to get a 2nd M car like the M5 you mentioned (although I’d rather use the extra money to get a Porsche to pair with your M3).
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I guess it depends on what your commute is like...
If it's bumper to bumper city driving or mostly freeway, then get something comfortable and automatic. But if your commute is back road driving or includes open stretches of road, then an M car would make sense as a DD.
My daily commute is 35 mi one way but is mostly open stretches with some interesting turns and minimal traffic, I get to rev out my V8 M3 MT regularly.
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An EV (Chevy Spark and Nissan Leaf) for the daily grind (especially in city traffic) are my weapons of choice. This allows me to enjoy the M3 and 911 on my terms, and I focus on quality miles. I found DD'ing the M3 to be an exercise in frustration, door dings, wasted gas, and excessive worry.
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I don't understand people, who don't understand why somebody would want a second car as a DD. What is the point of driving an M3 in a crawling traffic?
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e9x can be a great daily, if you putt around it feels like any other 3 series. However if your commute involves sitting in traffic all day ultimately there are way more cost effective and less frustrating ways to do it.
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