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      08-16-2018, 09:54 PM   #23
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I noticed mine has been going just slightly over the 210 mark occasionally.
I don't recall it ever going past 210 before. Is that normal?
I think so in my experience out in socal.
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For those running well in excess of 210 degrees, what viscosity oil are you guys running?
OEM 10-60 but it's also above 100 degrees in slow traffic for me, so to be expected.
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Your question is why I posted this. For me this is the high of my car temps during 5 years of having it. It's not normally 116 in LA. Typically I am dead nuts on 210 or at the 0 in 210 and that has been in mid 90's maybe 100. Last year in Palm Springs it was 117 outside during a friends wedding and I had roughly this same temp by gauge. I was kinda hoping some other SoCal, Arizona, Nevada or Texas M drivers coulda posted some pics to gauge my cooling system. I think I'm gonna go with the do88 radiator soon. So I'm curious about temps in this weather.
How high is it supposed to go if we push the car a little bit?
Sometimes mine get as high as OP's picture if I'm keeping rev high'ish (say keep rev at least 4000rpm) even it's not particularly hot outside...
I wouldn't like that temp if I wasn't in crappy traffic in 113 ambient. Those temps are high and far from my normal. When I rag it out I'm 1/8" past center. Now I've driven LA to Vegas like an animal in the summer and never been that high in temp but then again it was only 99 and not 117.
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Outside temp makes a big difference on my car. We have had a crazy Summer with 30-32C. At this temp my car all of a sudden was well over mid, 104 -106C even at high way driving. Never happened before. At normal say 25C it typically sits below mid, 96-98C.
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We are all okay, IMO and after extensive reading these temps are normal.
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We are all okay, IMO and after extensive reading these temps are normal.
Yep, nothing to worry about.
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oil temp

2010 e92 m3 dct.
also csf radiator and oil cooler.
one of the hottest days of the year in maryland.
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Outside temp makes a big difference on my car. We have had a crazy Summer with 30-32C. At this temp my car all of a sudden was well over mid, 104 -106C even at high way driving. Never happened before. At normal say 25C it typically sits below mid, 96-98C.

I'm really surprised to hear that. Outside temps should make minimal difference on oil temps in most cars, short of being in very extreme conditions (ambient below 0F or above 100 F). Even then, you should only see minor changes from "normal". Are you sure your cooling system is working properly?

I keep saying this in these threads but I don't think people are stopping to think about how the cooling system works: this is not an air cooled engine, it's water cooled. Anyway, I would not be obsessing over oil temp until you are getting near the 300 F mark -- which I was never even able to do on the track.
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We are all okay, IMO and after extensive reading these temps are normal.
This for sure is.
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We are all okay, IMO and after extensive reading these temps are normal.
This for sure is.
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Outside temp makes a big difference on my car. We have had a crazy Summer with 30-32C. At this temp my car all of a sudden was well over mid, 104 -106C even at high way driving. Never happened before. At normal say 25C it typically sits below mid, 96-98C.

I'm really surprised to hear that. Outside temps should make minimal difference on oil temps in most cars, short of being in very extreme conditions (ambient below 0F or above 100 F). Even then, you should only see minor changes from "normal". Are you sure your cooling system is working properly?

I keep saying this in these threads but I don't think people are stopping to think about how the cooling system works: this is not an air cooled engine, it's water cooled. Anyway, I would not be obsessing over oil temp until you are getting near the 300 F mark -- which I was never even able to do on the track.
Appreciate your view but try and drive in +100 temps in stop and go LA (or where ever) traffic. You WILL see a rise in temps. My goal was to have people post a pick that shows their stats to see how our cars average. Somehow folks have given pics outside of this. I was hoping to see a pic of the cluster completely. This would show ambient and motor temps. This would kind of provide some comparable info for all. My ambient 117 with high motor temps in stop and go makes sense. I wanted comparable info based of AMBIENT TEMP + DRIVING CONDITIONS for reference. Most of the pics seem to be basic
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Appreciate your view but try and drive in +100 temps in stop and go LA (or where ever) traffic. You WILL see a rise in temps. My goal was to have people post a pick that shows their stats to see how our cars average. Somehow folks have given pics outside of this. I was hoping to see a pic of the cluster completely. This would show ambient and motor temps. This would kind of provide some comparable info for all. My ambient 117 with high motor temps in stop and go makes sense. I wanted comparable info based of AMBIENT TEMP + DRIVING CONDITIONS for reference. Most of the pics seem to be basic

Fine, it will rise a little bit, but the point is that it is pretty much irrelevant Also, that gauge is not terribly accurate. Not really sure of the point of everyone posting "well mine is 1.2mm past the middle mark" or "oh yeah well mine is only 0.9mm past the middle mark". Are people really staring at the oil temp needle and panicking because it moved slightly?
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I switched to Motul 300v 15w50 and my oil temps are 15-20* cooler at freeway speeds (195-200* slightly below the middle line), about the same 210-220 in traffic, and with spirited driving it will see 230*, but cools down MUCH faster than 10w60. I cant wait to track the car with this oil. It was actually shocking how much better my car responds to the 300v. Worth the extra cash imo

Ambient temps in central florida stays in a 95-100*F range for all of the above observations
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Drop a picture with outside temp and oil visible. It's hot as shit in Cali and I'd like to get comparisons.

2011 E92 DCT - Stop and Go 3 mph traffic in 113.
That sounds about right OP... I'm in DFW, Texas and run right about that temp anytime it's about 95 and above ambient in stop n go ... freeway run, it's a tad bit lower. When Bmw was with castrol .. on the OEM castrol 10w60 it used to run a hair bit cooler. Since Bmw switched to shell I've noticed that it runs a bit hotter both in summer n winter
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It reached about 100 degrees here in NY last week and my needle went up as high as middle of the "0" in the 210. It usually moves between the "2" and the "0" though normally.

Is that oil temp in OP's pic normal? I've never seen mine go that high but I've never seen it hit 113 degrees either. What's the highest the needle can go before you should panic?
Perfectly normal ... as in my earlier post , it started running slightly hotter in shell as compared to castrol ... maybe it's just me but others have noted a similar trend
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Plus , there's one more thing . It can creep up towards the 3/4 mark on the gauge but the thermostat should kick in and lower the temp on the gauge. I've definitely noticed it in Stop n go traffic - it creeps up n then backs down again ( even without hitting freeway speeds).
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Appreciate your view but try and drive in +100 temps in stop and go LA (or where ever) traffic. You WILL see a rise in temps. My goal was to have people post a pick that shows their stats to see how our cars average. Somehow folks have given pics outside of this. I was hoping to see a pic of the cluster completely. This would show ambient and motor temps. This would kind of provide some comparable info for all. My ambient 117 with high motor temps in stop and go makes sense. I wanted comparable info based of AMBIENT TEMP + DRIVING CONDITIONS for reference. Most of the pics seem to be basic

Fine, it will rise a little bit, but the point is that it is pretty much irrelevant Also, that gauge is not terribly accurate. Not really sure of the point of everyone posting "well mine is 1.2mm past the middle mark" or "oh yeah well mine is only 0.9mm past the middle mark". Are people really staring at the oil temp needle and panicking because it moved slightly?
Lol I feel ya. I was hoping to see what some NV & AZ folks look like compared to me out in Cali. I only see high temps in 100+. So I wanted to see how those folks do too.
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I switched to Motul 300v 15w50 and my oil temps are 15-20* cooler at freeway speeds (195-200* slightly below the middle line), about the same 210-220 in traffic, and with spirited driving it will see 230*, but cools down MUCH faster than 10w60. I cant wait to track the car with this oil. It was actually shocking how much better my car responds to the 300v. Worth the extra cash imo

Ambient temps in central florida stays in a 95-100*F range for all of the above observations
Thanx for the info!
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Drop a picture with outside temp and oil visible. It's hot as shit in Cali and I'd like to get comparisons.

2011 E92 DCT - Stop and Go 3 mph traffic in 113.
That sounds about right OP... I'm in DFW, Texas and run right about that temp anytime it's about 95 and above ambient in stop n go ... freeway run, it's a tad bit lower. When Bmw was with castrol .. on the OEM castrol 10w60 it used to run a hair bit cooler. Since Bmw switched to shell I've noticed that it runs a bit hotter both in summer n winter
Thanx for the info!
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Fine, it will rise a little bit, but the point is that it is pretty much irrelevant Also, that gauge is not terribly accurate. Not really sure of the point of everyone posting "well mine is 1.2mm past the middle mark" or "oh yeah well mine is only 0.9mm past the middle mark". Are people really staring at the oil temp needle and panicking because it moved slightly?
Are you running an upgraded oil cooler or radiator?
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Scrippy, did you catch this one? The suggestion that the oil thermostat doesn't allow proper flow I found pretty interesting.

https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1526945
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