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01-06-2008, 02:37 PM | #1 |
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What is the best, most comprehensive, easiset to use, most accurate and ultra portable radar detector - money no object (without satnav) - on the market?
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01-06-2008, 02:54 PM | #2 |
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I seem to come across quite a few owners of the Valentine 1 system.
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01-06-2008, 03:27 PM | #4 |
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I had a look a week or two ago and law is changing soon in uk to ban radar/laser detectors
So legally you'll only be allowed gps systems. You can btw add speed camera locations to the BMW DVD so they show on the nav screen, no sound warnings though I think |
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Passport 9500i.
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Legal in about 48 US states.
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01-06-2008, 04:43 PM | #9 |
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considering my profession i'll take that question...detectors are only illegal in 2 states, DC and VA. in every other states they are viewed as passive detectors that DO NOT emit any signals that may interfere with law enforcement frequencies, in other words you are save, from a LEGAL perspective. HOWEVER if you do get pulled over for speeding and a detector is in the view, i am sure you will not be issued a warning considering the sole purpose of you having one in the car
JAMMERS on the other hand are a different story...hope i could help |
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no clue about Germany, probably are
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01-06-2008, 05:04 PM | #13 |
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a complete jammer system runs about $2,000 to purchase, although illegal, they ACTUALLY interfere with the radar gun which causes the gun to read faulty numbers. it is usually mounted to the front and rear of a vehicle, usually around the license plate and connected to the radar detector. it really works and you truely are invincible to radar guns. the people that actually sell it have a gurantee that if you do EVER receive a speeding ticket, they offer to pay for it...
i dont know how true that may be, but it really does work. either way though, very illegal and a Felony. very pricey as well, up to $11,000 per violation and even jail time, banned in 1997 |
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I'm not one of those guys who just plugs in his detector and thinks he is invinceable. I'm always very aware of my surroundings and am always looking for the bad guys. I just feel like laser has the upper hand right now...and obviously, I don't like it.
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01-06-2008, 05:30 PM | #15 |
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here is the thing about the "new goodies" and lasers. when usuing the new laser guns the officer has already made a predetermination of your vehicle as he or she consciously selects and targets your vehicle much like a sniper with a rifle and scope (plate, headlights, chrome on a car, color of the car). More importantly, laser is a highly focused beam that barely encompasses the front of your vehicle leaving little scatter, making advanced detection virtually impossible even with the use of the finest detector. furthermore, the lighter the color of the car, the easier the detection as well. white being the easiest to detect and metallic colors as well. black being the most diffificult.
jammers create this sort of protective shield around the entire car, where any attempt to shoot any aspect of the vehicle is instantly denied with error reading numbers...thats why it is highly illegal radar guns on the other hand are detectible because the actual radar signal is very wide and it bounces off just about any obstacle in its path. this makes radar comparatively easy to detect because, even with instant-on radar, your detector will typically "catch a bounce" when the officer targets another vehicle around you. laser is a very narrow beam that doesn't "bounce". in most cases, the police officer will be targeting your car before your detector alerts you and, since the laser gun can calculate your speed in less than a second, you will not have time to respond before getting a ticket. that is why you got that ticket hope i could help |
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Aparently there are more cameras trained on Brits than any other nation on Earth. The policy has changed to make them more visible. We also have video cameras that automatically read your number plate to fine you for parking, entering central London, and driving in Bus Lanes (which we even have on the Motorway). I managed to clock up £645 in fines for these between May and December last year. "Welcome to London (KA-CHING!)". |
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Are you talking about Lidar jammers? Lidar jamming is not outlawed by the FCC since they don't control light wavelengths. It is legal in most US states, AFAIK, though in an extreme jurisdictional case you could be charged with "interfering with the duties of a police officer".
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01-06-2008, 06:16 PM | #19 |
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i saw Lidar Jammers for sale online, so my assumption is that they havent been banned for whatever reason considering they are still active with their sales. they certainly wouldnt be selling them if "their" product was illegal. i was just referring to "jammers" in general. i did not want to get into any particulat make or type.
either way, if you are caught with any jammer or detector, you certainly are not going to get any sympathy from the LEO, it actually might just make matters worse... cheers
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Radar detectors are also banned in some states in Australia. A mate of mine in Qld, a copper, told me that they have radar detector detectors! I think the use of radar detectors is commonsensical: it should not be used to say, 'great, now I can drive like an arsehole and not be cognizant of public safety'; at the same time, if I'm in my Bimmer on the I-10, the conditions are good and the road clear, I want to open up my car and not add to the State/County coffers. Which is the greater risk: jinking in rush hour traffic in your F-250 truck at 70 mph (as I see all the time here in TX) or driving in a car purposefully designed to go 160 km/h on the Autobahn on a clear interstate? I got busted 3 mths ago but it was very suss: the 'bike cop had a radar gun and I know I had not got up to 88 (maybe 80 to get past a semi on the dual carriageway..) In this case no warning by the trusty V1 either ...
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Long thread here with some links somewhere on how to do it, it's slightly technical but someone does it for the UK then uploads a torrent, handy if your nav is out of date too
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=94031 |
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